In-N-Out Burger says it will close its first location in its 75-year history due to a wave of car break-ins, property damage, theft and robberies affecting customers and employees alike at its only restaurant in Oakland, California.

The fast-food burger joint in a busy corridor near Oakland International Airport will close on March 24 because even though the company has taken “repeated steps to create safer conditions our Customers and Associates are regularly victimized,” Denny Warnick, In-N-Out’s chief operating officer, said in a statement Wednesday.

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Oakland should get a police department.

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Maybe it’s a cultural issue.

If the people living in oakland want to behave like animals, then they can live like animals.

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“If” is doing so much heavy lifting in that sentence you can probably leave the rest of the words out. Nobody wants to live that way.

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I don’t think anyone here is under the illusion that fixing policing in this country, let alone Oakland, is a simple task.

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Underrated comment.

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I thought that the whole “bay area is getting worse” was a front propagated by big businesses trying to hide their corporate losses to shareholders. Weird huh

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I happily hop on Bart to go to SF and spend a day as a pedestrian. No issues, minimal to none of the rumored stuff.

Oakland… I’ll make a Bart transfer there and I’ve never felt too unsafe. I left the West Oakland station once and people looked at me like “what the hell are you doing?” I went back.

I have driven through Oakland, rode Bart through Oakland, flown into and out of OAK. I don’t linger in Oakland outside of tourist spots (Jack London Square). Alameda, nearby, hasn’t been an issue for me.

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Press x to doubt

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Did you go read about it?

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the area has high theft because there are a lot of restaurants in the area, and its outside of an airport, so a lot of tourists tend to leave their luggage in their rental vehicles, making them extremely prime targets for theft.

The Raising Canes in Oakland switched to drive thru only because of the rampant thefts of people flying in and trying Raising Canes first.

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At the same time, I see why they’d doubt this, given it sounds similar to the rash of articles about stores closing in cities because of “out-of-control crime” before the midterms, only for the real reasons like corporate reorganization or unionbusting to trickle out later.

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exactly. Distrusting sensationalist articles about how crime is shuttering businessed is good intuition as its probably correct 4 out of 5 times. The problem is Oakland sounds like it actually has a car burglary epidemic.

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In and out owner was denying COVID procedure at a point, right? Suspect this is less warranted action and just another nut job carrying water for the crazy, hate machine on the right.

Didn’t I hear this location was right by the A’s stadium, and the A’s are leaving, correct?

So maybe a business failing being covered by “out of control crime” just like how target and the retail Association got caught lying about the stores they were closing the to “out of control crime”. Then it turns out… Oh, each of the stores they marked to close actually had other nearby target stores with higher reported crime rates, but what the stores marked for closure DID have in common was that they had lower sales.

Retail boils down to a real estate speculation guessing game. Executives are typically unqualified, privileged pretenders . They made the wrong guesses on store location, because they are incompetent, and now they are exploiting this moment - just like they price gouge through COVID. It’s all a play to cover their failures.

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I’m pretty inclined to believe the reason of crime in this instance because

  1. In-n-Out is so popular, most locations’ drive-thrus have 'round the block traffic
  2. Oakland is pretty crime ridden
  3. They’re only closing a single location, and In-n-Out is not franchised.

It’s very likely that people backed up in the drive-thru line were being robbed. I used to think the stories about how fucked up that city is were just exaggerated until I had to work out there overnight. It really is that bad.

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Why not hire a security guard? This sounds like some packaged bullshit trying to blame downsizing on crime, just like CVS did a couple years ago.

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Yeah it is, just like all that shit about how retail stores last year having to close because of crime AS CRIME WAS FUCKING PLUMMETING

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was crime really plummeting at a time when we were seeing a slew of security videos showing mass amounts of organized smash-and-grabs all over California?

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You’re getting downvotes, presumably from people who haven’t spent any time in NorCal. This is a problem everywhere there from Oakland, to SF, to Palo Alto and San Jose. No where in the bay in safe from this.

No locals leave anything of value in there car for any amount of time.

I learned that in 2013 when my rental was broken into in a fancy Palo Alto restaurant.

But these aren’t violent crimes, which I think are declining, just property crimes.

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social media can let people believe what they want, but the retail org that claimed closed stores were from shoplifting retracted their claims after it was revealed they were unsourced hearsay. Most closures have been from low sales in office districts since remote work expanded

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*reported crime.

At some point, store workers give up on calling in for your average shoplifter.

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Crime is NOT plummeting in Oakland. Quite the opposite.

I live here and have been in the area for decades. It’s legitimately bad now, and that parking lot is a shit show.

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I lived near a CVS that was constantly targeted for crime. It’s closing this month, and I honestly can’t imagine how it stayed open this long.

You can pretend it’s packaged bullshit, but until you live in a city and experience it first-hand, you’ll stay in your pretty make-believe world.

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Oaklander here. Crime might be down nationwide, but it is up a LOT here. It’s quite sad. Big franchises aside, a lot of small local businesses haven’t been able to withstand the crime wave. Lots of my favorite mom and pop places are closing up and saying that they just can’t deal with the cost and stress of continued robbery / burglary.

But as for this place, there are cameras and guards in that lot, as well as employees taking orders. People still smash and grab, even in broad daylight.

This part of town is really struggling, by the airport, and thieves know the rental cars are almost guaranteed to have luggage. No one that lives here is shocked by this news. This is not Walgreens locking up soap in a place with dropping crime. This area is legitimately struggling with some big problems.

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Wow, you weren’t kidding. What is wrong with Oakland?

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/oakland/crime

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What is wrong with Oakland? Poverty. That’s usually the number one factor for rising crime rates anywhere

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And Target! I hate having to call someone to unlock the fucking toothpaste.

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Idk, looking in from the outside adding a security guard usually ends up with someone dying in the US. Either the security guard tries to be John wick but ends up being a Paul blart or the security guard is a waste of salary as they go “why would I risk my life, fuck that.”.

At best it would be a deterrent to young kids who get cocky.

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Nah. There are security guards everywhere and most of them don’t ever kill anyone.

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You just said it yourself, “most”

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