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Apple isn’t that much of an asshole, it only does all the dick moves it is legally allowed to.

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No their ads told me they’re the heroic guardians of my privacy.

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43 points

I think they’re probably better on privacy than default out of the box Android phones loaded up with Google adware, but that’s such an incredibly low bar.

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7 points

The only way they are better, is the fact there is only one party having access to the data, aka only Apple. On Android you have google + the manufacturer, and in some cases more than those two

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4 points

Which is obviously true, just like everything else you read on the web. If someone wrote it on the web, it has to be true. It’s we well known fact, that it physically impossible for it to be otherwise.

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22 points

Can’t think of any worse assholes except Google.

Just because they make nice looking hardware, you give them a pass.

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6 points

Samsung finally ditched the stupid curved glass, so Androidland now has nice hardware too

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Good luck with that. Their phones are filled with ads and Samsung’s crappy software that can’t be removed. Apple and Google do the same thing, but their apps are at least good. As good as Samsung’s hardware is, they mess up the package with their hot garbage software.

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Yeah I never understood that. Made me stop buying Samsung phones, also because they added a price premium. Turns out that the best Android phones are Motorola phones like the Edge 30. No crapware at all and fantastic battery time.

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52 points

Looking forward to the day I have the cash for Fairphone or some other alt to Android/iOS

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26 points

Oh I didn’t know about fair phone. Thank you for making me aware of this project.

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Do your own research but I’ve heard they’ve gotten better.

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6 points

Very welcome, my friend.

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Be aware that their hardware has cross gen problems and their support is very bad. /e/os has implemented tracking id into their update service. They are calling cleanapk, they update OS and Webview extremly slow resulting in a very insecure OS.

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they update OS and Webview extremly slow resulting in a very insecure OS.

I’ve recently got monthly updates. The last one from 2024-01-09 containing Android security patches until 12/2023.

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I can recommend flashing /e/OS to de-google the Fairphone. Running smoothly on my FP3 since 2021.

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46 points

Yes, they are also as painful as possible for every other browser. That’s the point.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Apple’s new rules in the European Union mean browsers like Firefox can finally use their own engines on iOS.

Although this may seem like a welcome change, Mozilla spokesperson Damiano DeMonte tells The Verge it’s “extremely disappointed” with the way things turned out.

“We are still reviewing the technical details but are extremely disappointed with Apple’s proposed plan to restrict the newly-announced BrowserEngineKit to EU-specific apps,” DeMonte says.

In iOS 17.4, Apple will no longer force browsers in the EU to use WebKit, the underlying engine that powers Safari.

“Apple’s proposals fail to give consumers viable choices by making it as painful as possible for others to provide competitive alternatives to Safari,” DeMonte adds.

Epic CEO Tim Sweeney called the new terms a “horror show,” while Spotify said the changes are a “farce.” Apple’s guidelines are still pending approval by the EU Commission.


The original article contains 285 words, the summary contains 142 words. Saved 50%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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Wonder if you could get an eu iPhone in the us, or use a vpn, or something else…

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Probably ok with VPN if you never allow the phone to detect its location (gps and cell towers) cause Apple would know immediately.

But that begs the question of what happen to EU users traveling outside the EU region?

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6 points

Features are locked to the region the phone was designed for so nothing software will work.

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So theoretically importing a European iPhone can unlock features?

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Yes you can. I imported my iPhone 15 from Canada because I wanted the physical sim car slot. It costs a pretty penny but if it’s what you value then it’s worth it.

I just bought mine on eBay and it showed up in like 3 days.

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