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Wait until you hear what the Danes do.

Why is “97” “7 + [-½+5] x 20” in Danish?

https://jose-lesson.com/lin/2017/01/16/nonaginta-septem/

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Normal children usually gain fluency in their native language by age 5. Danish children need to wait until age 7.

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It’s kind of funny how aware Danes are of their weird numbers system. I speak Norwegian and whenever I’m in Denmark they use the more sensible Norwegian number system to explain to me the prices of stuff (probably because I give them the deer in the headlights-stare whenever I hear something like “fem og halvfjerds”).

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I’m otherwise decently fluent in Danish (first learned nynorsk then lived in Denmark for a few years). But when numbers come out I immediately switch back to Norwegian. Fucking Danes.

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They think we’re stupid and infantile for evolving past tradition.

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No kidding. It’s the sort of thing that makes you think about how different people process info differently

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TIL that there’s actually (kinda but not really) a method to the madness that is our numbers 😄

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Thanks for the link! While I was aware of the weird numbers in Danish, this gave a great explanation and I wish I had had this info when I was forced to learn French in school. The way this vigntisian system evolved is actually quite interesting and makes so much sense. Everything makes sense now. Wow.

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I had to look this up. What the fuck? They came up with numbers up to 60 and then just said “eh, fuck it” and made 70 “sixty-ten”, 80 “four-twenties” and 90 “four twenties ten”.

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In francophone Switzerland, they use septante, huitante, and nonante for 70, 80, and 90, respectively. Much more sensical, imo.

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In Belgium, they use “septante” and “nonante” too. 80 is still “quatre-vingt”.

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Swiss French is what French should have always been imo

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Should a language be something else that the product of what those speaking make of it? :)

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The other way around. We started with base 20 everywhere then simplified some of it.

During medieval times it used to be :
10 Dix (10)
20 Vingt (20)
30 Vingt et dix (20+10)
40 Deux-vingt (2x20)
50 Deux-vingt et dix (2x20+10)
60 Trois-vingt (3x20)
70 Trois-vingt et dix (3x20+10)
80 Quatre-vingt (4x20)
90 Quatre-vingt et dix (4x20+10)

Then they switched to base 10… But only up to 70 for some reasons in France. Belgium and Switzerland (and some parts of France) have gone all the way to 100 by using Septante (70), Octante or Huitante (80) and Nonante (90).

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Belgians and Swiss being the premium version of France, once again. Seems like all the sensible French people packed up and left nonsense behind.

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What a nice thing to say

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We’re not that different with the teens. We effectively say “seven ten”, “eight ten”, “nine ten”. You don’t think of nineteen as “nine+ten”, it’s just its own number. Well, the French take that one step farther.

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Maybe it’s the anglophone in me, but going 1 - 10 then 11,12 (3+10) - (9+10) then adopting a repeating pattern to infinity is more explainable than going 1-10 then 11-15 then a regular pattern for fifty numbers then getting freaky with that pattern up to 100, then keep that pattern until one thousand, then just repeat that pattern til infinity.

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maybe it’s the man in a Turkish prison in me but going I,II,III,IIII and then crossing it through to make five is more explainable than going 1, 2…

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English: What’s that?
German: “Was ist das?”
Dutch: “Wat is dat?”
Spanish: ¿Qué es eso?
French: “qu’est-ce-que c’est ?”

What. the fuck?!

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Agree. But you can say “C’est quoi ?” too. More “street language” but it’s okay

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«Qu’est-ce que c’est que ce bordel ?»

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Hahaha “C’est quoi cette merde ?”

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French-Québec : “Kossé ça?”
French also : “C’est quoi?”
… or : “Qu’est-ce?”

Word for word of "qu’est-ce-que c’est ?” …
…goes like : "What’s this that this is?
…or : “What’s this which this is?”

“Qu’est-ce?” sounds like the english “Case”.
Since this is just one syllable it might be difficult to hear out of context.
Edit : Delayed 8h because of DDOS attack

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I ended up replying to the original comment, but your translation to English made me realize that in Portuguese we commonly say “O que que é isso?” which is basically “qu’est-ce-que c’est?”

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In Portuguese we actually can say “O que é isso?”, basically the same as in Spanish, but I’d say I use more commonly “O que que é isso?”, which seems closer to French version. Funny, had never thought about it like that.

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Portuguese is what happens when a Spaniard speaks French while hungover

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Although most French say “Qu’est-ce que c’est”, it is worthy to note that the proper/formal French is “Qu’est-ce?”. So strictly equivalent to “What is that”, word for word. :)

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And the French is pronounced keskecè. Half the letters are silent because why not

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Then ask someone who hasn’t learnt French how many syllables there are in “qu’est-ce que c’est ?” And watch the look of horror on their face when you tell them it’s just 3.

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Normally I don’t support English imperialism, as the root of the majority of the modern world’s evils, BUT

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This doesn’t apply to all french speaking regions. Switzerland use septante and nonante and in some regions of the country also huitante.

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was gonna say props to Switzerland and Belgium for having proper numbers :) idk why we don’t switch

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Probably because the cost of switching isn’t worth it. Same reasoning as the imperial system and driving on the left (barbaric, I know)

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