Hello,
My IoT/Home Automation needs are centered around custom built ESPHome devices and I currently have them all connected to a HA instance and things work fine.
Now, I like HA’s interface and all the sugar candy, however I don’t like the massive amounts of resources it requires and the fact that the storage usage keeps growing and it is essentially a huge, albeit successful, docker clusterfuck.
Is there any alternative dashboard that just does this:
- Specifically made for ESPHome devices - no other devices required;
- Single daemon or something PHP/Python/Node that you can setup manually with a few systemd units;
- Connects to the ESPHome devices, logs the data and shows a dashboard with it;
- Runs offline, doesn’t go into 24234 GitHub repositories all the time and whatnot.
Obviously that I’m expecting more manual configuration, I’m okay with having to edit a config file somewhere to add a device, change the dashboard layout etc. I also don’t need the ESPHome part that builds and deploys configurations to devices as I can do that locally on my computer.
Thank you.
How has home assistant become a resource monster? What kind of integrations are you using aside from ESPHome?
Yeah, home assistant is tiny… I’m not sure what he expects? Does he need it to run on a pi zero or something? Lol
Tiny you say… answer to what you asked: https://lemmy.world/comment/7101252
I’m not using any other integration. Isn’t this a resource monster?
I just don’t want to keep running an entire VM with their image. Something more simple that could be used on a LXC / systemd-nspawn container or directly on a base system would be nicer.
It’s half a GB of ram and virtually no CPU usage. You could run it on a Pi 3 with a 16Gb SD card and have resources to spare.
This is just weird.
What is weird is having to waste almost 700MB of ram + 10GB of storage for a simple webui that charts sensor data and only keeps it for 10 days. As a comparison my NAS container runs Samba4, FileBrowser, Syncthing, Transmission, and a few others under 300MB of RAM with pontual spikes on operations.
If this is what you consider a resource monster you’re gonna have a really, really rough time
This isn’t reasonable at all, 700MB of ram + 10GB of storage for a simple webui that charts sensor data and only keeps it for 10 days.
Node-Red can do dashboards. I don’t know if it does data logging, but I would guess so since it can do dashboards. It also supports MQTT so it should handle ESPHome devices without a problem.
It’s made for automations (and great at it) but it can be a minimalist HA hub too.
Consider running HA in a light weight systemd-nspawn container with minimal debian. No docker, only install the repositories you need. HACS if needed. Run your own database on the side somewhere and let HA use it.
By itself HA is fairly lightweight already.
I was trying to go that route with LXC actually and while it seems great what about the ESPHome addon? I’m not even sure if that thing is required to use ESPHome devices or not.
It’s not needed, and you can run it separately standalone if you do want it as well.
It’s not needed,
For what exactly? Can I still add the ESPHome devices to HA without the addon installed, is the addon only for flashing the devices?
Thanks.
Node Red.
I run nodered within Homeassistant in a vm on one of my nucs, I do all of my actual automation in there and homeassistant is just an IO layer for zigbee and bluetooth stuff.
I started out that way, but I’ve moved to doing most of it in HA directly since they massively improves the UI. I still use NR for complicated stuff though. I’ve recently started using Pyscript for modbus integrations too.
The UI is definitely better than it used to be, but nodered can do some more powerful stuff like pulling the html of a devices web ui and parsing data straight from the page when there’s no API to use for example. I used to do that for a solar inverter at my last house.
Now I use it to control my AV switcher that distributes video through the house, it has no native homeassistant integration and only supports things like control4 and RTI so I implemented my own control using their REST API and hooked it all up to buttons and selectors in homeassistant. works great.
Also my home theatre receiver has a homeassistant integration but its terrible, so again, I’ve manually implemented the tcp controls in nodered.
I’m running domoticz with an rflink interface for my rf433 devices. No clue if they support ESPHome, but you can check. It runs confined to my network.
