For children’s health?!? Should’ve been banned years ago for the planet’s health 😡
If you ban it to save the children, you have the conservatives on your side.
If you ban it to save the planet, it becomes a leftist issue and people will resist the “wokeness”.
So weird they are apparently doing it for the children. Maybe it’s for a bigger impact or something, but it seems questionable as it was always about the environment with disposable vapes.
It may be two pronged.
“For the children” is a classic “you sure you want to block this legislation, mate?” move.
And the big tabacco companies have been rapidly pivoting to target vaping at children (to set up lifetime consumers), since we’ve made amazing headway reducing smoking.
It seems like targeting vaping at children has worked for them. The handful of millennials I know who vape are people who started smoking at ~14 years old before transitioning to vaping instead. I don’t personally know any millennials who went from being non-smokers to picking up vaping. And the millennials I know who vape all use the rebuildable, customisable ones, too.
The percentage of zoomers I see who vape is far, far higher. A lot of them have never smoked a cigarette in their lives, they just went straight to vaping. And it’s almost exclusively disposable vapes, too.
I think vaping is preferable to smoking cigarettes, but I think not doing either is ideal. And I’m obviously dead set against disposable vapes.
So yeah, in this case, “for the children” actually seems to be appropriate. And not that Sunak really gives a damn about the environment, but I think framing this as “for the children” rather than for environmental reasons is the right approach for a conservative government anyway; left-wing people will support it for environmental reasons anyway, but the government directly saying it’s for environmental reasons would probably upset a segment of right-wing people who think doing anything for the environment is “woke”. This way, it’s seen as a good thing for everyone (except the disposable vape buyers, I guess, but it is good for them, too, even if they don’t agree now).
Yeah there is definitely a problem with big tobacco taking advantage of children. This looks like a proper legislation that I stand for. However, it’s hard to not be skeptical as “for the children” is usually for malicious intents.
Yeah they’re not banning vapes, and they don’t appear to be increasing the age of purchase.
The problem with disposable vapes is that their disposable. In the sense that you can physically throw them away not in the sense that they’re actually recyclable, not that we we will never know for sure because no one who has ever used one has ever put it in a bin, they just thrown it on the floor or in a canal if it all possible.
Disposable vapes are such nonsense, loads of single use plastic, sold freely all over, not even that cheap considering the use, and nobody puts them in the bin! They’re just all over the floor everywhere.
They should be but in the bin. Because of the battery. In the UK many supermarkets and local authorities will dispose of them for free, so there still no excuse.
Chucking away lithium batteries is also stupid, even if it’s disposed of properly.
- after one use
Finally the Tories do something useful
None of them vape so they don’t care enough to block it. What will have happened is some civil servant will have suggested that it’s a good idea, and because no one wanted to block it they’re going to do it.
They just exist to make sure that laws that are enacted don’t affect any of their backroom backers. I guess disposable vape companies don’t have connections.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The latest changes would also introduce powers to stop refillable vapes being sold in a flavour marketed at children and to require that they be produced in plainer, less appealing packaging.
To help stop underage sales, additional fines will be brought in for any shops in England and Wales caught selling vapes illegally to children.
The announcement follows an initial consultation launched late last year by the UK government and devolved administrations to gauge public attitudes to measures being proposed to reduce levels of smoking and vaping.
Deborah Arnott, chief executive of Ash, said that the “government’s strategy is the right one: stop smoking initiation, support smokers to quit…, while protecting children by curbing youth vaping”.
Dr Camilla Kingdon, president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, said the organisation was “thrilled to see the government take the first necessary steps to create a smoke-free generation”.
Trading Standards officers also say more resources are needed to help crack down on rogue retailers, and it may take some time and a different range of policies to stop vapes with damaging illegal content coming into the UK and reaching children.
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