15 points

Seems like this would be a good time for foreign car companies to take advantage of the US automakers entrenched positions again like Japan did in the 1970s.

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3 points

Would that work? Most people Americans wouldn’t want to be found dead in a car that isn’t showing off hoe big their penis really really is.

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If they sold a new car cheaper than the standard used car and actually had stock yeah if you build them people would come … buy them.

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10 points

It’s a good thing we give them so much TAXPAYER money! I’d MUCH rather give THESE men my Money then STARVING CHILDREN!

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12 points

Well, I gotta save for a Chrysler 300 because that’s the only company who isn’t lobbying against right to repair.

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Really? In the entire world or are you just one of those “buy american” saps?

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1 point

I’m literally in America. What do you want me to do? Pay for an import of something from China or some shit?

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or are you just one of those “buy american” saps?

I have my answer.

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11 points

Chrysler dealership wants $450 to diagnose an issue on my 200. Local shop directed me to them because it was an electronics issue that they would need to repair. Not sure I would trust Chrysler either.

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18 points

Chrysler is probably only doing it because they already design their vehicles to be a huge pain in the ass to repair. I remember my buddy having to remove his wheel to replace his battery in his intrepid because the only access was via the wheel well.

I’ve also heard a story about Toyota where they would buy competitor vehicles to disassemble them and see what they were up to and they stopped bothering to even look at Chrysler vehicles because they didn’t have anything useful to learn from their designs.

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9 points

I just bought an old diesel Mercedes that I’m hoping will last me until the next era of car technology. I can’t believe how easy it is to work on, almost as if it was designed to be maintained instead of to discourage the owner from doing so.

Currently it’s had only 200k of its reputed million miles used up, so it has a long way to go yet!

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I’ve heard the Chrysler 300 is pretty expensive to repair, but I still don’t wanna see my money in the hands of companies who are actively working against us.

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1 point

You could always buy used. Something 10-20 years old but popular so there’s lots of spare parts still.

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If anyone would care to read the article it’s more about companies making more high end cars and running low stocks than making cars bigger. They reduced stock during the pandemic and discovered that they can make more money selling fewer cars with maxed out specs than a lot of base models. They simply don’t have base models on stock now and people still have to buy cars so profits are soaring. Basically they made everyone depend on cars by killing public transport and are now milking it hard. Because what are you going to do? Work from home?

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I’ve noticed this trend in other businesses, as well.

They’ve realized it’s more profitable to screw over fewer people harder than it is to try to appease more customers with better deals. The most notable example of this to me would be the fast food industry.

It’s a win-win, because they get to expend fewer resources due to fewer customers and they make more money with each transaction.

Fuck greed and anyone who supports it.

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3 points

To extend and clarify a bit, if you want a base model they don’t have, you have to pay a delivery fee. At which point you might as well buy the higher trim on the lot.

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1 point

Even worse, you have to pay a delivery fee on the cars in stock too.

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1 point

Well not officially. At least not where I’ve been car shopping before. But that might explain the 2,000 dollars in dealer add ons they refuse to sell the car without.

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14 points

That’s a lot of words to say “Cartel”. Car…tel… get it?

I’m here all day, folks! 👍

Here’s a hint: the automakers are doing great. By essentially coordinating an industry-wide production cut, the pandemic gave manufacturers power to demand mind-boggling prices for fewer cars, leading to record profits. As consumers adjusted their expectations, executives saw an opportunity to establish a lucrative new normal. Low inventory is an “opportunity to drive strong margins”, GM’s CEO, Mary Barra, told shareholders in 2022. Ford’s CEO, Jim Farley, went even further, declaring: “I want to make it extremely clear to everyone: we are going to run our business with a lower day supply than we have had in the recent past because that’s good for our company.”

Also see: collusion… market manipulation… fauxflation.

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4 points

Yet another point in the argument for a government corporation that makes basic shit and provides basic services across the board.

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2 points

“But muh nationalization socialism! Next thing you know we’ll all be in gulags!” - some trailer park right wing rube reading this right now.

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4 points

Oh hey almost exactly like the housing issue… Greedy fucking companies realized they made more making McMansions than starter houses so no one makes reasonable houses anymore and we’re all stuck trying to buy 4+ bedroom overpriced shit…

There’s no way this could be bad for society at large especially when driving is pretty much mandatory outside of cities. Nah, it couldn’t be bad because it’s good for corporations. Not that anyone cares. Externalities is just a fancy word…

Remember: can’t afford life? Move to a low cost of living area and drive 2 hours to work! …wait…

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Oh hey almost exactly like the housing issue… Greedy fucking companies realized they made more making McMansions than starter houses so no one makes reasonable houses anymore and we’re all stuck trying to buy 4+ bedroom overpriced shit…

There’s no way this could be bad for society at large especially when driving is pretty much mandatory outside of cities. Nah, it couldn’t be bad because it’s good for corporations. Not that anyone cares. Externalities is just a fancy word…

Remember: can’t afford life? Move to a low cost of living area and drive 2 hours to work! …wait…

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10 points

That’s going to break down when Starbucks in San Francisco/etc. can’t find workers because the cost to drive 20 miles to work is greater than what they’re being paid. That day when low-paying big city jobs disappear because no one can afford to get there and work there is coming very fast.

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It’s already here. They aggressively recruited among the higher middle class urban kids and poverty kids who can use mass transit. And now they have a very stubborn union movement.

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Remember: can’t afford life? Move to a low cost of living area and drive 2 hours to work! …wait…

The article even mentions some research that in the suburbs people with cars tend to get better jobs.

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3 points

Every “decent” job I’ve had I had to travel 30+ min by car, I would never have had the same opportunities without a car.

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47 points

Good thing China isn’t ready to flood the market with millions of cheap electric cars. This short term profit is going to end up biting them in the ass real quick. Although I guess they know they’ll just get bailed out, so there’s no reason to innovate.

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5 points

Most of those Chinese cars wouldn’t meet US safety regs. Getting them up to that level would put them closer to cost parity.

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3 points

Not really, the big problem is tariffs. You have to do at least final assembly in the US to avoid that.

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4 points

My biggest worry is that once/if the Chinese make cars “good enough for the US market”, all car companies lobby for worse consumer protections since those regulations no longer keep new competitors out of the market.

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7 points

They sell them in the EU, which has stricter safety regulations. If they set out to do it, they’ll flood the market and get the traditional manufacturers in trouble.

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20 points

Not to worry: protectionism will take take of the competition. Just like they did with the Japanese manufacturers…

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Cheap labor Conservatives destroyed protectionism. Part of why we’re in this giant economic mess is because offshoring wiped our middle class off the map like the Chixclub meteor.

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10 points

Yeah no one drives a Honda or Toyota 🙄🤣

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Domestically there’s still Tesla, although I guess they decided to do a stupid big truck as well.

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When I get a car I’m gonna buy it based on minimal use case, so that I don’t use it unless I have to. A fucking Trabant or something.

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