39 points

No more monkeys dying, only Musk fans.

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Whoever was implanted with this was restricted to having lost complete motor function and likely had extremely poor quality of life, opting for this procedure as a last hope. I get you’re making a joke but I hope you understand it’s at the expense of someone in a terrible situation who’s undergoing a significant amount of suffering and likely was prior to any interaction with Musk.

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1500 animals seems like a really low number for the development of a medical device.

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its basically a fancy mouse. It lets you control a computer or phone. So, yes, as it goes inside the body I guess its technically a medical device but this is not a necessary evil. I fully agree with animal testing when it comes to important things such as curing diseases but this is just musk trying to roll out another device that will probably never work right anyways.

And killing a shitton of animals to do so.

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7 points

In fairness there’s a lot of people with disabilities that could benefit from something like this. But you’re right, I wouldn’t trust anything Musk has touched to be inside someone’s head.

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There are laws dictating how animals should be treated for research, and they don’t specify at all how many animals may be used. They do dictate how research might be approached to minimize suffering and loss of life, and even with these weak animal welfare laws Musk still finds a way to run afoul of them.

The complaint relates to Musk pushing researchers so hard they make mistakes

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I think the issue is more that they died from distress or complications of the hardware. Standard operating procedure is to dispose of animal subjects after testing irregardless, so the FDA isn’t so much worried about the number of corpses as much as how they died.

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There’s experiments to run; there is science to be done on the people who are still alive

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2 points

Maybe they got a human volunteer with the promise of cake

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I mean Fuck Musk, but these are rookie numbers, animal ag kills way more animals in horrible conditions every minute.

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Downvote me all you want hypocrites.

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I do not know about US numbers, but in NL - one of the most “productive” countries when it comes to agriculture - about half the population number is killed weekly 8.5m), which is about 843 animals per minute. Not counting fish, insects, game, etc.
So you are technically incorrect, but those are not exactly rookie numbers.

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I did just say animal ag as a whole, which definitely kills more per minute. But I suppose it’s an unfair comparison since we should also be looking at medical science as a whole. I mean it’s all moot anyway, I just think it’s silly to worry about 1500 monkeys when animal ag is responsible for far worse atrocities every day and most people don’t blink an eye because hamburder.

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