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Most of the time people are pretty cool, but when people aren’t cool all the cool people need to be like “hey, that’s not cool, so be cool or you need to leave” and thus the coolness is enforced.

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Additionally because of game theory, a “rat” will always exploit everybody’s chillness. It’d be great to not spend a cent on the military but Russia is a rat that uses this opportunity to invade its neighbors. Inevitably you will have to invest in some kind of law enforcement.

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Anarchist movements have military as well, in need they can pick a commander to lead them whose power can be dissolved at any time even without finding an alternative commander. Commanders power is not enforced and anyone can not listen to them. These armies where most efficient in the past, but they were most of the time defeated because both right-wing and so call “left-wing” communist fight them. This is what happened during anarchist movement in Spain, which no one seems to talk about.

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I’d be more concerned how to disarm the military. Giving someone power, and them willingly giving it back never works. There have been times when a country had no effective military and mere civilians banded together but these were very rarely effective combat forces.

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3 points

This guy cools

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31 points

Republicans: Exist

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Direct democracy isn’t supposed to be passive, but in every anarchist community, it is collectively enforced. Republicans (and anyone else) should be actively fought not to be in power, but that doesn’t mean by simply giving someone else power to rule over you. We can simply agree to collectively fight anyone who tries to be in power, we can follow who we want in this fight, but no one should force us to follow them and anyone who tries should be collectively fought against as well.

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While I broadly agree with you, we don’t have that third option yet, and electing the less bad option while we build the third option is a necessity.

You don’t get to say “Well I don’t want any of this - I want better” while checking out of the systems we live within, ceding power to the fascists - you need to be doing everything you can to fight fascism first and foremost while fighting for better.

It isn’t easy, but who really thought a fundamental change in the structure and nature of our society would be?

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I have nothing against doing temporary solutions, but I am generally don’t really see anyone giving proportional fight for that third real solution, but I see many people spending a decent part of their day reading, talking and getting angry over these incomplete solutions and getting often confused on what is right and what is wrong.

My understanding is that every option where you vote for any party is pretty fascistic choice, and only some parties are better at hiding it then others. All parties generally disguise their ideas as fight for the working class, both racist and “progressive” parties, while both do exactly the same thing in terms of worker rights and interests. I think that pretending to fight for “progressive” ideas while doing exactly the opposite for the conditions that cause that hatred and domination of one group over another, is just as harmful, if not more so.

There is a good video I just watched today about it, I highly recommend it. And I highly recommend spending more time building actual co-operatives, (direct democratic) unions and other horizontal structures opposed to getting caught up in these games rich people play with us. Educating people and yourself of current and past anarchistic movement should be a priority over criticizing and legitimizing these forms of hierarchical systems.

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Absolutely works for me that’s a very anarchistic take.

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You ever been in a room where one psychotic person seems to set the whole tone? That’s the world without governments. Anarchy inevitably leads to misery, so let’s come up with the best government we can.

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I thought about this for some time. An anarchy would always collapse into governed state.

First, imagine the perfect scenario where there no authority and world is just a lot of tiny city-sized communities. It would take just a single bad actor to form a state, start invading neighboring communities and growing in power. In response - other communities would be forced to group into increasingly bigger states to have a chance to oppose influence from bigger/richer states.

This thought experiment also works if violent takeover is replaced by economic one. Think of cartels and monopolies.

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Until they hit another group that is either bigger or stronger and opposed to their way of doing shit. Really no different than how shit works now. Because you certainly wouldn’t be free to murder and steal and rape and enslave or whatnot even in an anarchistic society; people who don’t want you doing that shit would stop you or punish you.

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And some of those groups would form some ways to manage shit and conduct wars, leading us probably back to governments.

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If you looked up on this subject first, you would know that humans where anarchist for 95% of our existence. There is a good youtube channel “What is politics?” that talks about this. Even today, there are anarchist communities and there where in the past in the modern world, some of them are still going on, some of them where destroyed by outside force, some of them dissolved into state power.

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Citation needed. I think we’d be fine.

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No where on earth has anarchy, the places that have it for a few days spontaneously develop order through gangs, warlords, or the intervention of more stable societies

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This person doesn’t know how to search for things on the Internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anarchist_communities You should know that for 95% of huiman existence almost all tribes where anarchist. There is a good youtube channel “What is politics?” that talks about this.

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1 point

You ever been to Somalia?

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Why Somalia? Did you read somewhere they were anarchists or did you just assume that both anarchists and Somalians are savages so that they have to be related somehow.

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This in not true at all. In all anarchist communities, equality is strictly enforced and anyone who tries to get a hold on power is either kicked out or murdered.

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Being president should be like jury duty. Everyone has to do it eventually. And it sucks just as much so everyone tries to weasel out of it.

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I’ve done jury duty once, my group didn’t even get called into the court room so the worst part was just listening to the conversations of 50 other people bitching about how they had better things to do, such children.

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“I can’t make it to D&D tonight.”

“Why not? Are you afraid of the beholder fight?”

“No man, I gotta be the President.”

“Aww man that sucks… Well, try not to nuke anybody, I guess.”

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It’s legitimately a fucked up job for most people. You’re on call 24/7, the stress is so bad you can literally watch presidents prematurely age, you have to smile at people who make you want to puke, and you are legitimately trapped in the security circle.

Yeah there’s a lot of perks but I’ll keep my application to myself.

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