God damn it. Heretics is the book in the series that would work best as a movie. But I can also see why he wouldn’t dare try to turn God Emperor into a movie that wouldn’t flop.

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Do you think Jason Momoa knows what role he got into?

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The first book was awesome. I think the second book was ok, but disliked dead characters getting resurrected for apparently inane drama. The book I finally stopped at was whatever one it was that the main character turns into a telepathic immortal sand worm and was abjectly awful.

I think they’re making the right choice. Dune has some amazing world building, but the series got muddled down into whatever drug fueled fugue state and stopped being interesting.

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God emperor is a masterpiece and one of the best philosophical books I have ever read. It just felt like the author has a very deep insight into the human condition. It’s not a typical book with a lot pf external action happening though.

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I don’t think I appreciated God Emperor until after my 4th read through of the series. Frank Herbert definitely has a great insight into the human condition. Soul Catcher and The Godmakers come to mind most readily but his entire body of work explore different facets of humankind.

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In my opinion, God Emperor of Dune is a masterpiece and nearly equal to Dune. It’s pretty well liked by fans of the series, from what I’ve seen.

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4 points

I read it when I was in my late teens or early twenties, so what little I remember reflects in my impression of the book at that time. Take my recommendation with a grain of salt!

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I’m not an avid reader, but I enjoyed the movie. Do people who read the books think the movie did the books justice? Thought I’d give the books a shot

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14 points

We were damaged by the other adaptations, but I thought this one was fucking fantastic.

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4 points

Yea go for it.

I’m not a huge dune fan but I do like fantasy so I picked it up.

It’s quite a bit better than I expected.

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16 points

It’s quite good, but remember that it’s an adaptation. Despite having to cut and change things the movie hit the main characters, plot points, and themes well. The human/spider/dog thing isn’t in the books but is a perfectly fitting addition. As a fan of the books I saw it, knew where it came from, how it was made, and totally bought that the Baron would have one.

The only major quibble that I have with the film is a design decision. When it came to the costumes, sets, and even ships the film takes a minimalistic approach - probably to highlight how far in the future the story takes place. The books describe the noble houses living in much more opulence. A good example is the scene where the Baron is introduced. In the book his fat, ring-laden hand spins a globe of Arrakis made out of gemstones.

Other deviations from the book are necessary evils. The biggest one was how Lady Jessica acted when Paul was with the Reverend Mother. In the books all of her turmoil was internal and she was completely stoic. For the film it was necessary to have her show her feelings or do a Lynch style internal monologue.

If you liked the complete alien-ness of the people in the Dune movie you’ll love the books. Be warned that they get stranger as the series goes on, but that’s a good thing if you’re receptive to Herbert’s themes and ideas.

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If you liked the complete alien-ness of the people in the Dune movie you’ll love the books. Be warned that they get stranger as the series goes on, but that’s a good thing if you’re receptive to Herbert’s themes and ideas

I’m actually glad he’s stopping at Messiah because it gets so weird.

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The only major quibble that I have with the film is a design decision. When it came to the costumes, sets, and even ships the film takes a minimalistic approach - probably to highlight how far in the future the story takes place. The books describe the noble houses living in much more opulence.

I actually preferred some of the production design of the Lynch film for this reason. Overall of course, the Villeneuve version is superior.

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The movie is an excellent adaptation. A lot of shit gets skipped, glossed over, or changed but I feel like it was in the service of the medium. Books ain’t talkies.

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I’m waiting for Dune 2 to release to tell you.

Dennis saved a lot of the best stuff for the 2nd movie as bait to ensure he would get a second movie.

Dune is such a hard book to translate into a movie because lots of important dialogue that drives character growth and the political intrigue of the book is either Frank Herbert himself narrating the events, discussion or perceptions taking place in the characters’ minds, characters talking imperceptibly with their hand gestures, and characters saying one thing but using body language or gestures to mean another.

To adapt that into spoken lines on a script undercuts just how brilliant and smart many of the protagonists and antagonists are. I think Lady Jessica got the worst treatment in the first movie.

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Makes sense since that brings Paul’s story to a logical conclusion.

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Yes, but also because the rest of the books abandon the swashbuckling action and are basically science fiction political dramas.

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Iirc there’s quite a bit of action in Chapterhouse. God Emperor had some with them trying to get in and then escape the palace.

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