I feel that this is what we should be using instead of the current illogical time system.

98 points

We also need to switch to 13 months at 28 days each. Makes things so much easier.

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I had a roommate for a semester in college who essentially lived on a 40 hour schedule. He’d stay awake for 24 hours straight, then sleep for 16 hours. Not sure if he managed to pass any of his classes that year.

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8 points

I had your mom for a semester in college

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I honestly feel pretty close to that, not as egregious but maybe like 16 to 20 hours awake to 8-12 hours asleep. Roughly 16-10

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There’s pros and cons., though personally I used this calendar for my fiction writing.

I’d like to find a way to sync the lunar cycle and solar cycles since the earth’s, moon’s, and revolutions around the sun are soooo close (5 days off) plus it’d make sense to keep in theme with the Babylonian-esque base-60 system (where 60 is readily divided and a factor of 360 days, 12 months, 30 days, etc).

Which is pretty much what the Ancient Egyptians did.

*edit: pretty much have 5 “fake days” and add a sixth “fake” day to account for the gradual desync.

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New year’s week sounds good haha

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That is really nice! People take vacations around the new year anyway.

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I’d personally prefer 12 months with 30 days each, a 6-day week (makes for even rotations in shifts, 4 on 2 off), and an inter-calary week of 5 to 6 days at the new year.

If we’re going for broke on this I’d also want to convert to the dozenal system over decimal, as 12 is more easily divisible by smaller numbers which means easier division for numbers we use more often (like 3 or 4), which means that ¼ would be 0.3 and ⅓ would be 0.4.

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12? Ew. As someone who relies on my fingers to count I repudiate such discriminatory system!

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you can still use your fingers. it’s how we got our standard of time. Back then they counted the joints in our fingers minus thumb. 4 sets of 3 for our four fingers and 3 joints per finger. Then 5 sets of 12 to make 60. as they would use the fingers on the other hand to track how many times they counted to 12.

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You still get to count on your fingers. You use your thumb to count each bone in your 4 fingers to get up to 12. (“10” in the new system). Then you have the option to either continue with your other hand up to 24, or use it as an abacus, keeping your place while you count up to 144 (“100”).

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Wow. A dozenal system sounds useful! We should use it for measuring distances!

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8 points

Fuck it. Lets get real and just go all the way back to Sumeria. Sexagesimal numbering system here we come.

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I like that with 13 each month starts on a Monday and ends on a Sunday. Makes that calculation super easy.

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With six days a week for a 30-day month, each month would also start with the same day.

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7 day weeks are such a mess

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I would say that at the very least we could adjust February by taking a day from July and August and the extra day every four years could be added inbetween them as a “monthless” day in the middle of the summer.

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A dozenal system is more difficult in multiplication. Decimal: 10^7 =10000000, 10^8=100000000, 10^9=1000000000, etc.
Dozenal: 12^7= 35831808, 12^8=429981696, 12^9=5159780352.
Gets very messy very quick.

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That’s because you’re working in base 10. That person wants to covert to base 12.

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In base 12 12^7 would be written as 10000000 too.

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In dozenal (duodecimal), 6+6= a dozen, but we write “dozen” as “10”. A dozen dozen is not 144; it is “100”. 3 dozen is not 36; 3 dozen is “30”.

We would have two additional digits between 9 and “10”.

We would have to rewrite our multiplication table entirely. 2 * 6=10. 3 * 6=16. 4 * 6=20. But, when we do memorize the new table, it is just as consistent and functional as our decimal system.

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7 points

Math checks out, but who do we name the other month after? Another Roman emperor?

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We can just name it after some guy named John. We can call it Johnuary

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4 points

How about Sextuary after August and before September? It counts up from there until December anyway.

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4 points

Smarch. Just gotta watch out for that lousy Smarch weather.

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Not to mention the Ide of Smarch. Beware!

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2 points

Honestly just numbering them would be easier haha

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1 point

But then do we skip unlucky 13, and right from 12 to 14?

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6 points

Yes please! I love that system so much I made it the default in my fantasy novels.

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An alternative is 10 months where each are 36 days for even numbered months and 37 days for odd number months

A benefit for 28 days is all months are 4 weeks.

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Our time syatem is not illogical and if you think it is you haven’t thought about the consequences. The only bad thing about timezones is how far they swing away from their ideal position sometimes.

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Sega used this in their pioneering MMO from ~1999, Phantasy Star Online. “Beat Time”. The idea was to help you coordinate meeting times with people regardless of time zone. The problem was we had to convert it to regular time to have any idea when 725 beats was or how long 150 beats from now was.

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Eve Online have something similar too. The Eve time is just Reykjavik time, which makes conversion easier. I used to have a clock on my phone screen to show Reykjavik time to remind me of the event time with my space friends.

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I constantly got the day wrong on ops. Saturday 0200… Uhh shit. Friday night?

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That’s simple. It’s at 12:80 PM. Wait… no… yeah. Whatever, let’s just run Famitsu Attack or Endless Nightmare 4 again.

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But we’re having lunch at 12:90.

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Alcoholics hate this (its not 5:00 somewhere)

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But for that one magical moment, it’s @5.00 everywhere

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It’s stupid to remove timezone.

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Why?

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No it’s not. Time zones are a source of incredible confusion for programmers and are the cause of countless computer bugs that affect billions of people.

If we all used UTC time, you’d get used to it. You’d simply get up at xx:00 and have lunch at yy:00, etc. The numbers we use now (like 6 or 12) are completely arbitrary. You would get used to your day cycle using different numbers and the next generation would think literally nothing of it.

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It would be a mess talking to anyone about time where you do not live.

Say that you wake up at 06:00, everyone understands. Remove all time zones and now you wake up at 14:53. Anyone not native to your location would have no clue where in the sky the sun is relative to you and what that actually means for your day.

Would 14:53 for you post removal be compared to 06:00 or 09:00 pre removal? What if oyu are porned post removal and do not have the frame of reference for the old system. How would you go about it then?

I can see the merit in keeping time zones.

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Could you imagine traveling without time zones? It would be actual hell.

Normally you wake up at 1300, but then you travel to japan, you don’t know when they wake up. So maybe you ask the hotel staff or maybe people will start putting signs up “Japan wakes up at 0300”. I mean it’s cool you don’t need to change your watch or wait for your phone time to update when the plane lands, but how do you know when lunch is? When do you go to sleep? If a meeting you’re having is at 1000, is that way late in the day meeting? Or is that a super early meeting and maybe you should get to bed early the night before. You would have no clue unless you do it on the regular.

Now, you could just download an app that tells you what time it is where you’re at currently relative to what you normally use (so in Japan while they think it’s 0300, your phone says 1300) so this would make these way easier for you since all the times are just normal. Every time you move around you just tell the app where you’re at and it adjusts the time is displays annnndddd…oh wait I just re-invited time zones.

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I get your logic but no amount of bugs will ever be enough to justify making the entire world change their idea of time.

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I mean

The world has done it before, several times.

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Sure, OK. Changing standards has never ever happened before.

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So because programmers are lazy and stupid we should change how people live?

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Why?

Their value is so that we all can imagine what the sky looks like when we say “seven am”.

But why is that important?

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Because it’s what make the time have a meaning. The time when you eat, when you go to sleep or wake up, when you go to work,…

In fact, you’re looking at it the wrong way. The time is localised because that’s how it make sense for people. And that’s how it make sense for physics too. Relativity means each place has its own time.

The question should be why do you want to change this?

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I’d be with you if they were static - but the current situation of timezones that change regularly is a nightmare.

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Are you talking about winter time vs summer time? Then it’s a whole other matter, completely irrelevant to timezones.

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No, I’m talking about timezones themselves changing. Countries regularly change details about timezones.

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