Maryland House Democrats introduced a controversial gun safety bill requiring gun owners to forfeit their ability to wear or carry without firearm liability insurance.

Introduced by Del. Terri Hill, D-Howard County, the legislation would prohibit the “wear or carry” of a gun anywhere in the state unless the individual has obtained a liability insurance policy of at least $300,000.

"A person may not wear or carry a firearm unless the person has obtained and it covered by liability insurance issued by an insurer authorized to do business in the State under the Insurance Article to cover claims for property damage, bodily injury, or death arising from an accident resulting from the person’s use or storage of a firearm or up to $300,000 for damages arising from the same incident, in addition to interest and costs,” the proposed Maryland legislation reads.

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Unconstitutional, can’t require insurance to exercise a right.

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Idk I need to get insurance for my car because it might hurt someone. I think this makes sense and is a good step. You have a right to own guns but no one said it would be cheap.

If you are poor buying a gun should not be your priority anyways. why do poor people need guns? It’s not like they are going out hunting for their food still.

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It’s obvious you’ve never lived in the hood lol. Poor income areas usually have the highest crime and often little to no police presence.

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I’ve lived in the hood. BRANDISHING which is what this law for, would have you shot dead. Get the fuck outta here.

Does it say I need insurance to own a shotgun, that is kept in my home? Because thats what I’d be using if I lived in the hood and felt afraid in my home

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Idk I lived in Baltimore for a while. I definitely felt more safe when guns weren’t around

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If you are poor buying a gun should not be your priority anyways. why do poor people need guns? It’s not like they are going out hunting for their food still.

YEAH! Stupid fucking poors, if your neighborhood is so dangerous just get a better job and move to a gated community like the one RagingRobot here lives in! You’re too poor and stupid to handle protecting yourself anyway and since you’re so poor who cares if you die?

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If guns make neighbourhoods safer, why isn’t America the safest country in the world by a huge margin?

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Buying a gun only makes your neighborhood more dangerous

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Nobody should be carrying as a routine.

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So long as there are actual Nazis around, there exists a strong argument for it.

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Nazis that have all the guns they could ever want and routinely go on killing sprees with them.

So what exactly is the argument? That maybe one day, the gun laws that armed Nazis might disarm Nazis, even though they’he completely failed to for their last 5 years?

Stop falling for bullshit gun-lobby marketing.

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If they see you with a firearm, it will be all these excuse they need.

Don’t fall for the pro-gun bullshit. Equal access to firearms means nothing because violence always favors the biggest asshole.

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Is your gun keeping a third of your country at bay?

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Nobody should be carrying.

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Guns are practical tools in rural areas. In town though? Nah.

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Ah yes. America. The only country in the world where it’s expected that everyone has a gun and can carry it every where they go.

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Not the only one, somalia too.

And instead of complaining for the lack of healthcare, they cry because they are going to tax your Colt and you are not allowed to take it to the supermarket anymore.

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And how many guns have you donated to the homeless? You’re absolutely fine with gun ownership having a cost, as long as you can afford it.

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Things have a cost, there’s the materials, and unless you are a proponent of slave labor someone had to make the thing. This applies to literally everything. No shit “EvErYtHiNg IsN’t FrEe,” but everything can be donated if you so choose. The problem with donating guns to the homeless though is it’s technically illegal since you do not know if they can legally possess firearms, they may be a felon or “an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.” (ATF Form 4473 question 21f.) Or question 21g for that matter, “Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?” Or 21h “Have you ever been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions?” Or 21j “Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions?”

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So what is your tantrum about? The things have a cost that is now higher.

I genuinely can’t figure out what you were expecting with that argument. Do you think guns are sold for the cost of materials and labor?

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When they say “our democracy is at stake,” they don’t mean all Americans. They mean them and their friends’.

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It’s a good idea that has been discussed before, but is almost certainly unconstitutional. You can’t paywall constitutional rights.

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Bootlickers are out in force today, huh?

While we’re putting fundamental rights behind financial barriers, I want a poll tax on pro-lifers, anti-LGBTQ, followers of all religions, and everyone else that I don’t like. We can make it 50% of all yearly income from any source or 1% of total assets, whichever is higher.

Does that sound like a good idea?

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It takes all of 45 seconds to respond in a civil manner without throwing up strawmen.

Have you seen how the Supreme Court has been ruling on the Second Amendment over the last decade-and-change?

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Believing in the right to arms is also relevant for leftists, especially if a civil war breaks out. During BLM protests there were also armed leftists in marches which appeared to temper police responses.

Personally speaking, I don’t want cops and rich people, aka rightwingers, to be the only ones who are able to and allowed to own firearms.

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If your state doesn’t have concealed or open carry laws, you can still ‘bear arms’ by having them at home and transporting them in proper cases, correct? So this isn’t paywalling the right to own guns, just the right to take them around with you like a murdery little comfort blanket.

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So it’s like a less furry cat?

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IIRC it has been previously ruled that the 2nd covers ammo as well as firearms.

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Well in revolutionary period, no one carried arms really. Unless you were mustering, carrying your rifle around was ridiculous. It was ~5’ long, required manual loading before firing, and you had to carry very volatile black powder to do so. So it wasn’t an issue then. And if you’re a Constitutional Literalist, the Founders wouldn’t have wanted people carrying firearms outside of mustering for drills or war.

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One of the most interesting arguments I have heard differentiates between bearing arms and simply carrying arms. A soldier bears arms. Nobody would describe a hunter as bearing arms. A hunter simply carries them.

At the time of the writing of the Constitution there were an assortment of small single shot pistols meant to be kept in a coat pocket or tucked into a boot, so it isn’t exactly accurate to say the founders didn’t envision people carrying around guns. On the other hand they were short range, highly inaccurate, and unreliable. Totally incomparable to modern handguns.

Personally, I prefer to look at the 2nd more broadly as a right to self-defense and that things like a combat rifle are clearly offensive rather than defensive.

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Another right-wing bill that gives the rich power over poor, disguised as left-wing bill. All politicians in power are rich, which is why they always push for right-wing politics, democrat or republican, always end up against the working class. There is a good video about this.

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This is a lot like insuring a vehicle. So they shouldn’t make it a flat insurance, which would be regressive, but tailor it to the capacity, ammunition type, and firing rate of the weapon.

That’s what would make it a progressive fee - a basic Saturday Night Special or hunting rifle would be cheap for any poor person to own, whereas a military style machine gun would be cost-prohibitive for all but the wealthiest.

They could even have extra discounts based on user certification and tested skill levels, with surcharges based on discharge accidents and situations where the gun was recorded being improperly brandished or carried.

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