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Had an Italian friend (as in, from Italy, not someone whose great great great great grandpappy once snorted a line of parmesan) tell me the reason for this.

Italian women are notoriously hard to woo, and will resist all advances to appear “hard to get”

Italian men (As in, actually Italian, not people who think obnoxious behaviour can be excused by far-removed genetics) realise that it’s way easier to try and get their balls emptied chasing slappers called Sharon from Essex

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A compounding factor is that (actual) Italian men are used to hard to get women, and their efforts are therefore scaled for such challenge. Never have I seen men try so fucking hard to chat up anything within sight than Italians.
I still vividly remember seeing a bunch of them moving through the nightclub crowd, chatting up women one after the other, failing, immediately moving on to the next one, etc.

(One could argue it’s the other way around : Italian women have developed a resilience up to the challenge of the insatiable appetites and relentless advances of Italian men)

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33 points

Ahh the Boomhauer method.

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7 points

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2 points

you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take

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I went to Italy twice as a teenager with my soccer team. We were in a fresh air market in Herculaneum? I think and nearby traffic was stopped. We were all together, wearing our uniforms with a USA badge and the amount of young women who literally crawled out of stationary vehicles to come talk to us was mind blowing. It was heaven. Spanish steps when i was 16 was the closest thing this country bumpkin had been to heaven at that time in my life.

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22 points

Literally crawled? 🤨

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22 points

You know how the front seats have to push really far forward in a 2 door sedan for those back passengers to get out? Ever see someone try to get out faster than the person in the front seat can allow? Wiggle? Squeeze? Crawl? I dunno.

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Out of stationary vehicles. It would’ve been even more impressive if they’d literally crawled out of moving vehicles.

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3 points

They were young

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10 points

Lived something maybe similar in south of France in the nineties.

I stayed though :-D

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I was just in Roma last year for two months. I assure you, I had several women hit on me while out and about once I became a common patron of the local bar. I’m 6’, American and only slightly chubby. But that’s all I have going for me in looks, just average. And they could care less that I was American (except one girl). I was still happily (more like blindly) married at the time, so not much happened (divorce was the ex’s ask 3 days after we returned) and was using the bar for good views and language immersion.

You want to know my thoughts on why women there play hard to get: according to a few chats the men are often underemployed or have near zero prospects to be better than above poverty. and according to one woman, a guy she dated just wanted her to cook, clean, and have babies; yep, he just wanted a new mamma with privileges.

So while I was married and my situation unique, I expect woo’ing an Italian woman to be not as hard as you say. I volunteer to go back and test this theory.

Oh, and a slam to my ex. I dedicated 10 years of our much longer marriage to do her family research so she could get her Italian by blood citizenship. That trip was our celebration of obtaining it and to review areas for buying a house. I will now and forever just consider her a Parmesan snorting fake. It was Facebook bragging rights and shit more.

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Seems to be the vibe with most women in these countries with supposed fertility crises,

If married family life didn’t look like such a shit prospect financially, socially, mentally, really in any dimension, far less women would be holding out for obviously more wealthy potential matches like tourists who were able to afford a long distance ticket from another continent and ocean away.

Economist friend of mine has given me multiple rants about how the single biggest indicator of near future fertility trends is housing affordability, baby boom happened when subsidized home financing was backed the most by the government for example.

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10 points

A tad unrelated, but I just want to say sorry about your ex. Hope you’re doing better now.

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Thanks. Hard at first but getting easier. Oddly, this post inspired me to think about going back and checking out the dating scene. Best of both worlds.

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5 points

Hey, I feel you, man. To a crazy degree, in fact: with little difference except swapping out Italy for N. Ireland. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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Yeah, hit hard for sure. Now I’m stuck in a future where my EU goals force me to consider not dating till I’m there, or worse, be far more selective when dating local as now need to tell potential partners that I’m not staying in the USA. People think this sounds amazing, but it’s a whole life move.

I hope you’re healing.

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1 point

I mean…this is a uniquely American thing, right? Nowhere else is it so common to behave this way, right? Glorifying far flung ancestors for some, really, more adopted identity than anything else.

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26 points

It is often a little depressing for Italian women when they move to Northern Europe, because the lack of people aggressively hitting on them makes them feel unattractive.

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7 points

By “agressive hitting on them” are we talking about catcalling or just men giving them compliments?

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4 points

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66 points

Wait, do men constantly get inappropriately cat-called in Thailand?

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103 points

They’re talking about sex tourism.

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41 points

In a sense, yeah?

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I saw a video of a trans escort walking around telling guys she’ll give them the D and pay them for it.

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20 points

Not my bag, but 500 baht is 500 baht.

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6 points

I’d LOVE if you found that video but I suspect you can’t.

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That I largely doubt because in Thailand people are often not wanting sex with tourists just for fun, but drug use is an issue so I suppose it’s possible for one individual.

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22 points

Haha yea. It’s pretty great.

“Hey you’re sexy”

“Haha thank you but I’m meeting a friend”

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16 points

Never been to a red-light district?

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-1 points

Well not inappropriately no

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55 points

Bruh italy is just a fucking awesome place. Let people have their italy

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58 points

Bruh italy is just a fucking awesome place.

The problem is that Italy is also an awesome fucking place.

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9 points

I don’t see how this constitutes a problem.

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4 points

I blame Ovid, little snot couldn’t take being told no and wrote a tell all about the best places for exhibitionists to fuck in public, and it was all downhill from there.

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3 points

So is Thailand.

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2 points

Some of the best (and cheapest!) Food in the world.

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35 points

I thought Thailand was for more… unique tastes, rather then just getting your knob slobbed.

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6 points

Iunno man, I just wanna play chess. I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine.

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4 points

what other tastes?

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5 points

Ladyboys

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4 points

Genderqueer femme presenting folks and if you’re an absolute monster teenagers.

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31 points

So tell me about Thailand.

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Lots of pedophiles go to rape kids. It’s not the thing about transitioning. Although I think the OP was more referring to the general idea of sex tourism, not so much the specifics with Thailand.

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6 points

Transitioning?

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The other reply was talking about people getting gender confirmation surgery in Thailand.

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That’s where lots of people go men and return women. So I’m assuming Italy is also great for GCS for trans men

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74 points

I dont think that that is the stereotypical thai experience that they are referencing…

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6 points

Is there some typo in here or am I missing something?

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