With a “national incident” over measles in the UK, what’s the situation in Europe?

Europe is experiencing an “alarming rise” in measles cases, the World Health Organization (WHO) warned on Tuesday, with a more than 30-fold rise across the region in 2023.

More than 30,000 measles cases were reported by 40 of the WHO European region’s 53 member states between January and October last year, compared to 941 cases in 2022.

The increase in the number of cases is compounded by the hospitalisation of 21,000 people and five measles-related deaths.

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Wow, so glad so many people are dOinG ThEiR oWN rESeArcH.

I swear to god, we are going to be our own Great Filter.

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A fucking pharmacist tried to talk my daughter out of the latest COVID vaccine (which I guess is its own thing and not just a booster). Wtf? This was at Walgreens. I’m proud of my kid, though.

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Holy shit, for real?

In your shoes, I’d be filing a complaint. An antivaxer has precisely zero business being a pharmacist (or any medical professional). It’s like a mechanic who doesn’t believe in using antifreeze - yeah, most of the time it’s gonna be ok, but it’s gonna straight up not work in multiple completely feasible situations where a normally maintained car would work great.

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Unfortunately, a fair number of people in medicine-adjacent fields that have less requirements on having knowledge on biology and vaccines, such as nurses and pharmacists, are anti-vaxxers.

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It’s like a mechanic that doesn’t believe in electricity

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The big pharmacy chains are all bad, each in their own special way. I’m fortunate to have a few small independent pharmacies to choose from. The one I go to is no nonsense, and I’ve never waited more than five minutes, and they know my name. Support them while you can.

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Not that it’s anyone’s business, but what in the world was the pharmacist’s argument?

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Not thoroughly tested vaccine; she is in precisely zero high risk groups. But, not that it’s his business, she lives with me and her mother. We both wouldn’t be the best candidates for covid or any of the seasonal infections. The funny thing is my daughter saw the flu shot marketing piece at the photo department register!

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Probably not old enough to be in the at risk group is my guess… Everything we do has risk, and the vaccine itself is not risk free - are you more likely to have side effects from the vaccine, or from catching covid19?

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I’ve had a doctor at a COVID vaccination station trying to talk me out of it. He said that with my age and three prior vaccinations there’s absolutely no benefit. After a few statements like that he admitted that he was required to allow anyone who really insists to get it, though. So that’s what I did.

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damn, i really hope a someone invents a vaccine for that soon…

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Maybe maybe having laws and regulations controlling misinformation on social media would be a great thing. Social media have to be accountable for it with huge fines.

A social media isn’t free speech or freedom of speech, it’s in most case a private company making profits. When someone post something on Facebook or whatever else, it’s cognitive work so meta in this case can make profits out of it. It’s fine to regulate them on what can and can’t be show to the user. These services are the street.

The other important point is to educate people in the schools. We need programs of education to vaccination. It’s not magic. Virus and bacteria are still around. We didn’t magically kill them with vaccination. We are immune to them being around thanks to vaccines. Next to this, we have to educate on how we develop them too.

An other point is mandatory and free vaccination. Vaccines are too important for the human health. We can’t afford people not vaccinating their kids.

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The majority of people refusing the measles jab also unlikely to have their biology homework copied. Not a coincidence.

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Killing your own babies for literally no reason. Well done, humanity.

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Let’s call it a testament to natural selection. A fine scientific reminder for those paying attention.

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