167 points

Awesome, fuck SUV’s

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I came down the comment section searching for exactly this kind of argumentation. Thank you!

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Yes! Fuck them! Wait…what? Why can’t i park my Peugeot e-308 there? WHAT? No! That’s not an SUV! Well…it’s 1759 Kg and therefore an SUV. This rule is utter stupidity.

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1.6 tonnes with a combustion engine or hybrid vehicles, and more than 2 tonnes for electric vehicles

There might be silly examples to find, but yours isn’t one of them.

I would look for cases where moving from petrol to hybrid pushes you over the limit. I think they should be measuring size and fuel efficiency, rather than weight.

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91 points

“But that will make it cost prohibitive to own an SUV!!!”

Yes… Yes it will.

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15 points

You call it a bug.

I call it a feature.

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1 point

Not for those who can afford 100k+ to buy it in the first place. There will be some who see this as a further requirement to show the world that they are rich enough to belong to an exclusive club.

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This whole vehicular size arms race needs to go away please.

It’s so retarded that people think they need to get bigger cars to “protect” themselves in accidents. Just feedback looping stupidity.

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21 points

The next “logical” step after SUVs is driving APCs in the name of safety.

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4 points

already exists, armed with variety of lethal and non-lethal defense systems, up-armoured to take on anything short of 30mmAP rounds

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2 points

Makes sense. The guy openly carrying weapons with the look of he is dying to use them clearly gets into less problems then the guy who doesn’t attract any attention to himself. You really want to be threatening people by just being there, that will definitely work out well for you. That’s why I carry around a matchet and scream at random people to back off

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5 points

Penis enhancement

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2 points

But how will the other people know I have money if my car isn’t huge?

The protection argument has some merit, though. I remember seeing several studies that show survival rates are bigger for the SUV inhabitants in crashes. What SUV drivers don’t know (or simply don’t care about) is that it’s survival in the detriment of smaller cars inhabitants.

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10 points

Poor crash compatibility, and for reasons to do with chicken imports from Europe in the past (Not just bikes covers this), light trucks have less regulation in NA compared to cars, incentivizing the manufacturers to push them into consumers as well.

It’s shittiness all round and government is like that cat from the “bachelorette woman crying” meme.

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While this is great, someone who doesnt mind paying a 100k for a car wont mind the extra fees.

What would really change the game is changing existing parking spaces to fixed size parking spaces and if your over that you get towed.

That would mean they have to park their car somewhere more remote which would incentisize not buying huge cars to begin with

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I can’t speak for Parisians, but here in the us my experience is that it’s the people who drove the big cars who bitch the most about the price of gas.

So the added cost would definitely be a disincentive.

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21 points

There’s a ridiculous thing in the US that Europeans probably don’t know about called “rolling coal,” where people in big pickup trucks that they never use for hauling anything because it would scrape the bed modify their truck to belch out a huge cloud of black smoke on demand.

I have a Prius. They love doing it to me, because of course a hybrid that still uses gas must mean that I’m one-a them commie tree-hugging hippies. They probably pay as much in gas to do it once as it would take to get my car to go 5-10 miles. And they’re the ones putting Biden ‘I did that’ stickers next to gas pumps when gas prices go up.

Hey rednecks, you know what you have to do to not worry much about gas prices? Buy a fuel-efficient car.

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6 points

Oh we know, we’ve seen the videos.

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4 points

We drive a Toyota Yaris and bitch about the price of gas.

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It’s a gentle nudge.
If you’re picking a car, and didn’t think about it very much, something like paying more for parking might well nudge you to a smaller car.
And it means when those 100k cars go on the second hand market for 20k a few years later, the people paying that much will not be happy with the fees.

On a slight tangent, range rovers are being targeted by criminals. To the point where RR ups the security, and it’s worked around in a month or so.
This has lead to insurance premiums going way up. And while there are a few people just choking down the payments, others are switching away from RR, or from SUVs entirely.
It doesn’t put every customer off, but it certainly affects a chunk.

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Not saying this is what you’re saying, but the average french SUV doesn’t cost 100k. In-laws bought one almost new for 15k. They’re not poor, but definitely not rich, and would think twice about buying one next time if it means they pay more for parking.

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15k seems like a Dacia Duster. That isn’t considered a SUV according to the limits of that law (1400 kg)

It’s more to limit those useless monsters like the range Rovers

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2 points

Is a 1401kg 5 door EV considered an SUV?

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1 point

It’s an Opel something, as I said I’m not an expert in shitty cars 😁

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2 points

15k for an almost new SUV? I think you are probably confusing a CUV with an SUV

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15k € used. The (french) car dealer called the car a SUV, but I’ll admit I’m not an expert.

But even if you call that something different, there aren’t a lot of 100k SUVs in France, I can tell you that.

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While this is great, someone who doesnt mind paying a 100k for a car wont mind the extra fees.

Not just that, it removes the… let’s call it ‘shame factor’. Some people that would feel bad about driving big, polluting cars in the city now will feel perfectly justified: they are paying extra for the privilege. This will not reduce the number of cars and likely will increase it. It’s simply a bad policy. As you said, number of parking spots for big cars should be reduced each year putting greater and greater pressure on the owners to get rid of them.

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and if your over that you get towed.

A neighbor of mine who was a 60 something year old accountant got one of those oversized pickups and managed to block my space multiple times since he couldn’t angle it in correctly.

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35 points

54.6% voted for the increase… turnout was 5.7%. So just over 3% of the eligible Parisian population voted for this.

Source

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The turnout for those things is always extremely low.

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17 points

LOL at all the SUV drivers that didn’t go to vote

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17 points

They were trying to find parking during the vote and missed it.

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9 points

This special tariff is aimed at visitors’ cars, residents are excluded and remain unaffected, as are tradesmen and care services. So most Parisians don’t care.

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And even then, only a third of Parisians own a car.

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Ah yes, as an Englishman I can wholeheartedly agree making decisions on minor majorities is a fantastic idea, right guys?

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Well, people always have a tendency to not show up to vote and then complain about the results.

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Out of curiosity, how do you know they’re the same people in both groups you described?

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