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Didn’t we try the whole Dems helping Republicans thing before? And didn’t that get us into this whole-ass mess to begin with, Hillary?

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I’m sure Biden won’t ignore WI, MI, PA this time around like Hillary did.

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In fairness I blame Stein for that shit. Her voters would have flipped every single one of those states had Putin not been encouraging her to spoil in favor of the wannabe authoritarian.

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61 points

I blame Hillary. Stein ran her campaign, and Hillary didn’t do enough to get enough votes.

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23 points

Yes, Clinton supporters blame everyone but Clinton for the loss she earned.

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32 points

Haley isn’t going to win but voting for her in the primaries will help fracture the republican party further.

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If she wins the primaries, there’s no way Trump won’t run as an independent.

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And that will split GOP votes.

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6 points

Not unless she buys him off with promises of pardons and funding for his lawsuits. They could very well strike a deal where she names him as her VP and promises him oversight of the Department of Justice.

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Or it won’t. It will look like they are more popular and bolster the outlook for the party.

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You’re crazy if you don’t think this splits the vote.

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Yeah but Haley doesn’t validate rural white voters wanting to say the N word without social consequences the way Trump does.

Trump promises to make the grandkids start coming home for christmas again, Haley promises to return to the Republicans paying the nominal lipservice to that mentality being a bad thing that was driving trump’s supporters nuts with the party before the brass bullshitter came along.

The net effect will more likely be trump still winning and then either Haley’s supporters feeling alienated from how much Trump goes feral against her in the process, or Trump is blocked from running and he still loses via a write in third party run from the cult of trump

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She didn’t list slavery as a reason for the Civil War. She’d absolutely validate the racists if she got the nomination.

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Why the fuck are liberals still doing this shit? Was getting trump elected not enough of a sign that it’s stupid and doesn’t work??

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It’s like they forgot Hillary Clinton literally propped up Trump because she thought he’d never win.

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Because even if Haley won “by accident” that’s still infinitely better than Trump.

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Not really. She is still likely to enact project 2025 upon taking office. To paraphrase one conservative, she is really good at looking like a normal politician. She’s a confederate zombie back from the dead.

https://www.project2025.org/

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And you think, what, it can’t get worse than that? Fuck, man. Listen to what Orange Jesus is saying.

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49 points

Stop playing fucking metagames and learn how to govern.

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34 points

Braindead strategy. How about galvanizing voters with popular leadership decisions which have a positive effect on people’s lives?! Did you think to try that you dumb fucks?

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How to lose an election and radicalize voters: a memoir of America by the DNC

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Chapter 1: How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - the 2016 Elections

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The Democratic National Committee is controlled opposition. Obama was a fantastic president by Republican standards, Hillary, while more qualified than any candidate has ever been, has the charisma of a dumpster cheeseburger (iT wUz HEr TurN), Joe is a Nixon-era neocon goofus. They don’t want to win, but if they happen to accidently win, they make sure it’s someone safe and slightly right-of-center.

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The last Democrat to take office was Jimmy Carter. After Reagan successfully convinced the electorate that the concept of governing is prima facie a bad idea, Dems seized the opportunity to engage in a hard-right shift and position themselves as “fiscally common-sense but socially liberal” and weaponize intersectionality into identity politics so that we’d all think it was a great victory if our tax money was being redistributed to big banks by a black man, illegal drone assassinations were being ordered by a woman and labor laws were being undermined by a gay man.

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facts on facts on facts

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popular leadership decisions which have a positive effect on people’s lives

That will cost them donor money. A long time ago Dems realized that it’s a lot easier to turn money into votes than it is to turn votes into money.

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Isn’t this how we got trump in the first place?

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Yes. Hilary thought he was easy work. Blew up in her face.

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Blew up in all our faces

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it blew up in my ass

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Yep.

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