This isn’t me being a luddite. Machinery has massive potential benefit to giving humans more free time to pursue things that fulfill them and the internet is an amazing tool for disseminating knowledge and increasing communication, whether it’s about art, science, or philosophy.

But I realized today, this person is just kneading different textures of dough and this person is just whittling. How many bakers and carvers loved what they did because it stimulated their senses in ways that humans have evolved to be fulfilled by?

I have another theory (that probably aligns with disability theory in some way or other) that people with autism aren’t actually more common now, it’s just that they’re sensitive to bright artificial light and loud noises and weird smells and foreign textures the world we live in is FULL of those. And what’s more, we have ever increasing attentional expectations in the midst of all that!

You used to just have a weird uncle Joe who doesn’t talk a whole lot but man he can knead dough aaaalll day or thresh wheat or maybe he just makes cute little wooden toy horses all weekend and we sell them at the market on Monday. And it’s weird how aunt sally hums like that but damn her lace embroidery is WILD. (we can discuss antiquated gender expectations at a different time).

This isn’t saying savantism/special abilities should be expected of neurodivergent people either, just that a looot of people probably flew entirely under the radar that way for a huge portion of human history and we’re only noticing them now because we’re progressively putting people in more and more noxious environments where even people who could’ve coped in those environments can no longer cope in this one.

And now we have a whole industry of creating stimulation for people who never would have needed it if we just hadn’t created an entire world without naturally occurring stimulation that they’re “expected” to live in after humans spent hundreds of thousands of years learning to make tools out of wood and stone and cook over open fires, and crush and mix their own grain to make breads.

And because all these things occur on a spectrum, we’re seeing more people everyday who would have had no need for the stim industry now suddenly require it because we’re progressively pushing more and more people who could previously have claimed one of those coveted “normal” labels into being “different” as we steadily push them to accept less and less stimulation in their daily lives and steadily push them to stretch their attention span more and more beyond what it ever evolved to do.

TLDR; the ASMR/Stimming industry is only necessary because we created a world where those stimuli no longer occur naturally that people who need them have to live in. The concept of a “disability” is very intimately intertwined with expectations as to what environment any given person “should” be able to thrive in.

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It reminds me a lot of a discussion I had with my former psychatrist (I’m on the spectrum that’s why I had to see one), and he told me something along those lines when I asked him why does that even exist. It was something like:

[…] Autism surely used to have some usefulness for our ancestor. Easily analysing patterns, or being hyper-sensitive to stimulis may have been useful for dealing with predators, hunting, or making better tools […]

Feels like it come close to what you’re thinking op

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Not everyone who engages in sensory-seeking is neurodivergent. Stimtoys and sensory videos can appeal to everyone. Many humans like to have things in their mouths, and gum is the semi-modern incarnation of this. Autistic sensory requirements are a whole other thing, and frankly you do not see stimtoy companies successfully marketing silicone chew toys. The most popular toys are tactile because they appeal to the largest demographic rather than an autistic niche.

As for the videos you linked… ASMR and other sensory videos take advantage of animal biology, and capitalism simply cracked the code with technology and marketing. You can actually turn on a video of dancing fruit on your TV and hypnotize your dog with it. It would probably have the same effect on medieval peasants as it does to the modern proletariat.

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… I just realized how badly I want to be a baker. lol…And a cook. I just want to feed the shit out of people. Not like a chef at some restaurant, cooking meals while cussing and scrambling to make 10 different meals in 30 minutes kind of BS. I want to just relax and make a fuck load of food all day long and feed ppl as they come by. I want knead dough and make breads and soup and casseroles and meatloaf and big pots of baked beans and loaded baked potatoes and everything else. I want to be a babushka. lol

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Well said.

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On the one hand I agree, but on the other I feel there is danger in attempting to pathologize every single little thing. Don’t forget that the vast majority (probably 70%+) of these viewers and purchasers are children or toddlers, and it is completely normal to be entranced by such stimuli at that age.

It’s the literally the “jangling keys to distract the baby” trope

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It’s not pathologizing, quite the opposite, OP is saying that the industry is necessary because a normal human behavior exists that the constant drive for commodity production interrupts

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Yes, and I am saying that that industry is mostly being fueled by children who prefer such content due to their age.

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