“Florida Democrats don’t know why Taylor Swift is naming an upcoming song on her new album ‘Florida!!!’ or the reason she chose to hold three concerts in Miami less than a month before the November elections,” Politico reports.
“But their excitement around the news is less about ‘why?’ and more about leveraging Swift’s celebrity status to fill the blank space for beleaguered voters tired of losing to Republicans.
It’s weird how moderates think Taylor likes Biden and doesn’t just hate trump.
It’s the only reason most Biden voters are Biden voters, which is why he’s polling so terribly
There’s no reason we have to be running such an unlikable candidate again, just because trump is even more unlikable. It’s only worked 50% of the time now.
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Wow. A lot of people don’t seem to know many Dem politicians…
Biden himself said over 50 Dems could easily beat trump.
I think this guy would be a good option, but there’s lots of others
I’m not exactly a fan of Biden, but he’s on the ballot for two reasons:
- Incumbents historically have an advantage, and it would be crazy to throw that advantage away.
- Who else would run in his place? It’s not like there’s some other obvious candidate. I can think of lots of progressives that I’d personally love to see on the ballot, but the reality is that none of those candidates are seen as being electable in swing states. Be nice if it were otherwise, but it ain’t.
Incumbents historically have an advantage, and it would be crazy to throw that advantage away.
In lower offices maybe, but since 1980 (Carter) we’ve only had 4/7 incumbents reelected. People may talk about how Carter/Bush/Trump all had something uniquely terrible that caused them to lose their reelection, but Biden’s got a 38% approval rating, is tied to an unpopular foreign war, and has record low numbers with critical voting blocs. He’s not riding high and doing fine.
Who else would run in his place?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Ossoff
That guy’s 36, but ran the most funded US Senate campaign in America’s history.
So he’s got the money neoliberals say they care about.
He was an investigative journalist going after corruption, his positions line up with what Dem voters want…
And he’s really popular with gen z voters.
Why not him if all that matters is “not trump”?
The most funded in America’s history isn’t because of him; it was because it was a special election with the entire nation pouring money in for the sake of winning a Senate majority. It could’ve been Joe Manchin and the same outcome would’ve happened. That’s not a reflection of Jon’s campaign prowess.
Did someone stop him from putting his hat in the ring? Because otherwise, I think the problem is that he doesn’t want to run in Biden’s place and I don’t know that voting for someone who isn’t running in the first place is an especially good strategy to beat Trump.
Ossoff would be great. I’d also be up for Jeff Jackson, who has a pretty solid social media following due to his “I’m a newcomer in Washington, here’s what it’s like” videos.
I will pour my heart, soul and life savings into an AOC for president campaign as soon as she decides she’s ready.
You realize the DNC went into overdrive to kill the primary this election cycle, right?
Reordering states to favor Biden, keeping candidates off ballots, and some state Democratic parties even effectively cancelled their presidential primary.
Now, if you only consume mainstream media sources, it wouldn’t be surprising that you weren’t aware, as they have been mostly ignoring it.
Biden wasn’t even on the ballot in NH and easily won via write ins. Presidential incumbents who seek the nomination of their win primaries. Without exception. Always. Biden might not be popular, but he’s much much more popular than anyone who even imagined running an opposition.
And? Just because I am not a fan of how the democratic party is run doesn’t mean I’m not going to vote for them.
There are a lot of problems… But this argument is awfully close to apologetics for Trump.
I respect Warren a lot, but she’s 74 and I’d really like to see a US president who isn’t well past retirement age.
Polling indicates among democrat voters that LITERALLY ANY OTHER DEMOCRAT IS PREFERRED OVER BIDEN.
It’s so bad that next presidential election (if we have one) the democrat can candidate can say “at least I’m not Biden” and probably win on that alone. That’s basically all Biden is doing.
“Among Democrat Voters” doesn’t mean shit. They’re going to vote democrat anyways. Doesn’t matter who you put on that ticket, they’ll vote it if it has a D next to the name. So why try to make them more happy by swapping out the candidates, when doing so would lose you swing-voters? Swing-voters are what win elections.
You have to be incredibly popular as a named candidate to beat an unnamed candidate.
Yeah it would be really nice if there was a D that folks liked… I’d love to see a landslide election. But those days are gone I’m afraid.
THO… has there been a Democrat or Republican in the last… 50 years that folks really liked?
Maybe Obama… But other than him…idk
Yeah, both parties seem to just be running on “I’m not the other guy” recently, and it’s getting old (though admittedly the Republicans have been running on it a lot harder). Obama was the last candidate to be nominated on a platform that tried to make the case for a future.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Ossoff
I’m not a huge supporter of the guy, but he’s young, progressive, really popular with the youth, and just raised more money for his Senate run than any other politician in American history.
Sounds like he’s going to be president anyways eventually, why wait 30 years before it’s “his turn”?
Like, remember all the talk about the Georgia runoffs and no one expected Dems to win?
Ossoff is one of the Dems that won that
Didn’t recognize that name at all. After reading his wiki I recognized that he was one of the Georgia run-off Senate races. Maybe he’ll do some stuff and gain some popularity in the future. From what I saw in wiki the only thing he has done so far is vote with the party and help get a college re-accredidated. The reason his campaign was somhighly funded was because he was running in one of the most contested races in the country that was flooded with cash from all over.
I’m very glad he won, but also would someone who barely won their district really be a great possible push for a national candidate?
Also, “not a huge supporter” and have now posted him as a name/possibility all over the thread lol… You campaign for him? Are you him?
FPTP needs to go before we can have earnest conversations about how milquetoast a politician Biden is.
Who is a likable candidate, with experience but younger, who has name-recognition, can offset incumbent advantage, and not be an easy punching-bag for right-wing propaganda? Maybe Gretchen Whitmer? I don’t know.
Unfortunately Democrats don’t have great candidates at least for another election cycle or two. They’re between two generations with nobody in the Goldilocks zone.
I was concerned a while back that Republicans would rally behind someone like DeSantis or Haley and the age difference alone, let alone being a “fresh face” would be enough to put them over the top. Fortunately, the same match-up goes in our favor right now — especially with the backdrop of (a) the economy, (b) women’s rights, and © corruption trials (based on independents polling).
It looks like the Senate is going to be much harder to keep than the White House.
Jon Ossoff
But Biden himself said there’s over 50 other Dems who could beat trump.
Why are you acting like that’s not true?
I mean, maybe? But Jon Osseff is untested. A brand-new US Senator whose background hasn’t been scrutinized to the degree Biden’s has (and who largely remains clean). Quite a gamble. And before you mention Obama, Obama wasn’t hijacking an Incumbent presidency. Entirely different situation.
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GOPers are seriously unlikeable motherfuckers to start with
I dunno, the racism and simplistic explanations seem to be pretty likeable among a certain crowd
The majority of that demographic is dying in the next couple decades. That’s why the GOP is so desprate.
If that worked, it would have happened a long time ago. There’s always been a certain group of people who are attracted to authoritarian narratives. Perhaps we won’t be locked in battle with them forever, but we can’t take it for granted that they’ll just die out.
whoever has the most likes wins
Well, whoever spreads the most hates wins. I don’t think even the Trump fans like Trump. They just think that Dems eat babies, want to turn them into femboys, or replace them with blacks and Jews or whatever.
If Taylor Swift saves democracy by getting a bunch of her fans to vote… I would buy at least one of her albums. I wouldn’t listen to it, but I’d be thankful just the same.
I wouldn’t listen to it
I’m not a Swiftie. My sisters were big fans growing up, but I couldn’t care less about her music.
But when Midnights held all ten of the Billboard top 10 slots, and people were talking about it, I decided to listen to it on a walk with my dog.
The music isn’t amazing or anything, but it isn’t bad, either. It’s pretty standard modern pop, I would assume. But her lyrics are amazing. I’m not exactly sure why, but that album resonated with me, a man in my thirties (who admittedly prides himself on finding things to like about stuff). I listened to it twice that day, and I still listen to some of the songs on it on occasion.
I can understand why people get really into her music.
Anyway, all I’m saying is that if you do buy her album to thank her for saving democracy, it might be worth a listen. There is certainly better music out there, but also MUCH worse.
I’m not a Swiftie
when Midnights held all ten of the Billboard top 10 slots, and people were talking about it, I decided to listen to it
music isn’t amazing or anything but her lyrics are
resonated with me
a man in my thirties
still listen to some of the songs on it on occasion
Are you me?? Like I genuinely could’ve written this drunk and forgot. That’s literally exactly what I did with that album and how I feel about it.
I listened to it several times for a month even, so much that I got a good chuckle when Spotify informed me in the yearly review that Taylor Swift was my most played artist in 22, which is admittedly easy when all you hear normally is radio stations and playlists with various artists. Still, hilarious to see her on top of my usual metalcore bands.
Some lyrics still randomly pop into my mind these days and then I have that song stuck in my head for a while. I then sometimes put it on while cooking. It’s fun music to sing loudly and awkwardly to when you are alone, lol.
Another man in my 30s here, generally listen to stuff like 70s punk, hard rock, classic blues, outlaw country, alternative rock and post punk, prog and folk.
Haven’t quite reached this point yet, but listened to folklore a few times when it came out and liked it quite a lot. Checked out Midnights for the first time the other day, and… Yeah. It might be happening to me too.
If you mix some Veritechs into this plotline, I think you have the makings of the next Macross series, and I’d go out and buy that for a dollar.
I think you may be onto something. I’m more interested, though, in giant transforming robot airplanes than a music and dance number
Good luck getting the Latino voters in Florida vote blue. There’s been a generational effort to convince the Cuban and Puerto Rican voters that anyone left of Mussolini is Fidel Castro incarnate.
I love my Latino brothers and sisters, but Florida is not the place to hope for a blue wave.
I thought Latinos in general, not just in FL, tend to lean more conservative? For years there was the narrative that Dems would just wipe out Republicans if they got the Latino vote on board, but Latinos tend to be more conservative-leaning in general, are themselves against illegal immigration, probably trend more religious, and really haven’t come out to help Democrats.
Democrats in general tend to try to pull in alot of groups that don’t turn out to be very reliable voters. Oftentimes I think they’re trying to do the right thing for these various marginalized groups, but then those groups just don’t have their back when they’re really needed. Youth voters might be getting a bit better in recent years, but that hasn’t always been the case.
I thought Latinos in general, not just in FL, tend to lean more conservative?
In 2020, Latino voters voted Biden 2-1. They’ve been reliably Democratic, but just not to the extent of Black voters. They have recently trended more Republican, but that doesn’t make them conservative (at least in the big picture everything falls on a single political axis).
How about the florida democrats don’t run shitty ex republican candidates and actually manages a decent campaign for once in their fucking lives? Nikki Freid is right there and they did her dirty. We don’t need Taylor swift, we need someone who gives some modicum of a shit about florida. For being a huge “swing state” they sure don’t seem to think we’re worth the effort
Every year, it gets tougher and tougher to take a stand on the coastal states. Literally. And, Florida’s gonna be the first to pull an Atlantis. 🤷🏼♂️
What do you mean? It’s harder to justify improving the political situation in coastal states because of global warming?
Um. Florida’s coastline is literally dredged back from the ocean onto the beach by heavy machinery nearly every night. The state is slipping into the ocean so fast, the local government is literally clawing it back in impotent denial.
