Who else would try to convince others that Cheaters never succeed in profiting?

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Anyone who doesn’t want to deal with cheaters. Like a teacher. Do you know how much paperwork is involved in punishing someone for cheating?

So we make a parabole to discourage it

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Parable

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Probable

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I like this, but having skimmed it I didn’t find a description I connected with.

For whatever reason, I feel the world isn’t “just”, but I personally will have a better life if I do good things. It’s rooted in selfishness rather than celestial balance.

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The world isn’t just. The universe isn’t just. Both of those have no concept of just.

Society is better when people try and act like good people. So I do that.

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Sure you can alter circumstances to an extent and that’s probably the best way to live life. But all the good in the world doesn’t stop a freak car crash killing you or being struck by lightning. And while being struck by lightning is used synonymously with an act of god, I don’t think it actually means you deserved it. That’s the issue with the just-cause fallacy. It takes a huge spoonful of selection bias to only notice the people who did deserve it.

In my opinion the idea of karma is a convenient crowd control mechanism to prevent people from taking action to fix their situation when they have faith that the universe will magically balance itself out.

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My favorite response to “why do bad things happen to good people?” is “what makes you think they were good?”

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I don’t understand. I think bad things (e.g. cancer) can happen to everyone (e.g. small childrens/babies, selfless people…). Is your argument that no one is really good?

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It’s easier for religious people to believe in original sin than to accept that one day they’re going to die and they won’t get to meet Space Santa.

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The argument is that you cannot really know. You don’t know everything a person did. You don’t know the motivations with which they act. You cannot look into their heart.
That is why you should refrain from judgement over a human in his entirety. You can and sometimes should judge individual acts that you have witnessed or are proven.

This is explicit the Bible i.e. Matthew 7:1 and the Qur’an i.e. 1:4. I don’t know how it is written in the Torah, but generally in the abrahamic religions the final judgement is reserved to Allah, as He is the only one to truly know a human.

But also outside religion, why is it that anyone should rise to judgement of whether someone is “good” or “bad” in face of serious illness or injury? Saying someone is good so he doesn’t deserve cancer implies that there is people who deserve cancer.
I know the statement is usally meant to signal compassion. The compassion should be unconditional though, as it is a fellow human that is suffering.

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The most common, if subconscious, response is: “bad things happened to them so they must be a bad person”.

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“Karma’s a bitch.”

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They were unconditionally good in a Kant kind of way you know

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They were kind of a Kant

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The intent of the proverb isn’t that bad people don’t get good things, it’s that a person who is cheating doesn’t get value out of the activity.

If you go through life cutting corners, you don’t actually get to learn and build a strong foundation.

You can still be rewarded with jobs, money, and sycophants, but that’s not what really matters.

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This heavily relies on the premise that there is always something deeper than winning that’s valuable.

It’s all about knowing when and where to cheat. Cheat as often as you can on meaningless stuff.

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Cheat as often as you can on meaningless stuff.

My ex-wife would probably disagree.

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tl;dr - “Winning” and “prospering” are two different things

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You can still be rewarded with jobs, money, and sycophants, but that’s not what really matters.

I respectfully disagree.

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Life isn’t a meritocracy

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Treason doth never prosper, what’s the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it Treason.

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Never forgive. Never forget.

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what’s this from?

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That’s Diego Maradona’s infamous Hand of God goal against England at the 1986 World Cup.

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