I’d expected this but it still sucks.

121 points

There are two kinds of datacenter admins, those who aren’t using VMWare, and those who are migrating away from VMWare.

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Regrettably, there is currently no substitute product offered.

I really don’t think you regret a God damn thing broadcom.

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If you’re already running windows, hyper-v. theres proxmox, and tons of others. So they are mistaken. 🤣

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They mean that they aren’t offering another solution.

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I know, but this is the way I read it when they claim to give no option.

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All of them not equate in same league. Do you know any type 1 free supervises out there? Xen probably.

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Proxmox, Xen, hyper-v are all considered type 1 as far as I’m aware.

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Proxmox

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I assume what you’re looking for specifically here is a complete platform that you can install on bare-metal, not just the actual hypervisor itself. In which case consider any of these:

  • Proxmox
  • XCP-NG
  • Windows Hyper-V Server Core (basically Windows Server Nano with Hyper-V)
  • Any Linux distro running KVM/QEMU - Add Cockpit if you need a web interface, or use Virt-Manager, either directly or over X-forwarding
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KVM makes proxmox type 1

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I’m not sure why you’re getting down voted, you’re right. I’m not sure if anyone would run Proxmox for their enterprise hypervisor? I mean HyperV is okay. Slim pickings for big orgs. I know there’s Nutanix, but most folks are moving to the big three for VMs and hosting.

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RIP VMware.

Broadcom prefers to milk the top 500 customers with unreasonable fees rather than bother with the rest of the world. They know that nobody with a brain would intentionally start a new datacenter with VMware solutions

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Not anymore, thats for damn sure.

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It’s really sad, they used to be amazing and the goto for running Linux VMs on back in the day. Still haven’t seen anyone do hardware pass through as well.

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When big players like AWS are running KVM and XCP-NG, yeah. VMware is basically the also-ran at this point.

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Well dang, I guess that “learn about proxmox” line on my to-do list just moved a little higher. For the most part, I’ve enjoyed using ESXi and am sad to see it go.

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FWIW, I run proxmox at home, and I friggin love it. It’s really not hard at all.

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I like Unraid… It has a UI for VMs and LXC containers like Proxmox, but it also has a pretty good Docker UI. I’ve got most things running on Docker on my home server, but I’ve also got one VM (Windows Server 2022 for Blue Iris) and two LXC containers. (LXC support is a plugin; it doesn’t come out-of-the-box)

Docker with Proxmox is a bit weird, since it doesn’t actually support Docker and you have to run Docker inside an LXC container or VM.

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I’m in the market for a nas or thinclient for these kinds of things, an upgrade for my RPi Home Assistant.

I’m stuck at hardware at the moment and think a cheap 2bay NAS is probably the way to go. My concern is that I won’t be able to run all the things on a NAS mainly because I’m clueless. This community talks in maths (as Radiohead say) so half the time I’m trying to decipher all the LXCs and other acronyms.

Anyway, I think I need to learn PROXMOX or Unraid so your comment has me interested.

My question to you is this: since your server is plugged in via ethernet, can you access the Windows VM via web interface? Or does it require a screen, keyboard, mouse, etc?

I think I’m gonna be running HA in a VM, along with Adguard and maybe LMS in docker containers, then probably a Windows VM for Arr and Plex. I assume all these things will have their own port but I’m just not 100% about the actual Windows VM

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I’ve just learned about converting docker containers to lxc natively, so that’s my next project.

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Along with the termination of perpetual licensing, Broadcom has also decided to discontinue the Free ESXi Hypervisor, marking it as EOGA (End of General Availability).

Wiktionary: Adjective perpetual (not comparable) Lasting forever, or for an indefinitely long time.

Hello ProxMox here I come!

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They’re terminating in the sense that they won’t sell it anymore. They’re not breaking the licensing they’ve already sold (mostly, there was some fuckery with activating licensing they sold through third parties)

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Sort of. The activation license will work as long as you have it. They won’t renew support though, which effectively kills it when the support contract runs out.

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You won’t be able to upgrade to new versions when the support contract runs out, but you can install updates to the existing version as long as updates are made for it. This has always been the lifecycle for perpetual licensing. It’s good forever, but at a certain point it becomes a security risk to continue using. The difference here is they won’t sell you another perpetual license when the lifecycle is up.

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Hello ProxMox here I come!

Proxmox is questionable open-source, performs poorly and will most likely end up burning the free users at some point. Get get yourself into LXC/LXD/Incus that does both containers and VMs, is way more performant and clean and is also available on Debian’s repositories.

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You know, you can recommend lxd and whatever without putting out FUD about proxmox and other tech.

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While I get your point… I kind of can’t: https://lemmy.world/comment/7476411

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