The rail union contract expires at the end of this year meaning the rail union workers can strike again sometime in 2025. Whoever wins the 2024 general election and becomes president will immediately have to deal with that possibility. If Biden is serious about how Trump is the biggest threat we face then promising to veto any attempts to force another contract onto the rail unions is a bargain.

Your move Joe. Are you willing to compromise with leftists or do you want to go down in history as the second establishment Democrat who lost to Donald Trump?

28 points

Easy peazy.

Support unions and rally labor for a win. Its so fucking laid up for him its ridiculous.

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Pistcow’s comment illustrates the holes in that strategy.

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We’re not interested in your opinions on our strategy. Does Biden believe democracy is at stake? Does he need our votes to defeat Trump? This is the deal. Compromise with leftists or risk losing to fascists. Take it or leave it.

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https://www.americanprogressaction.org/article/8-ways-the-biden-administration-has-fought-for-working-people-by-strengthening-unions/

So all of the good that Biden has already done for unions means nothing to you unless he does one specific thing for one union? Biden has been amazing for unions, I really don’t see why this is your line in the sand.

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Way to miss the point entirely.

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It’s comical how many union workers I see with Teamster and MAGA bumper stickers on their shitty trucks.

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Comical but irrelevant. Those people didn’t vote for Biden in the 2020 general election and won’t vote for him in 2024. I voted for Biden in the 2020 general election but if he doesn’t promise to back rail unions in 2025 I will vote 3rd party this year.

If Biden thinks he needs our votes to defeat Trump this is the deal. He can take it or leave it.

EDIT: I find it hilarious I’m being down voted for pointing out MAGA people won’t vote for Biden under any circumstances. You people really have lost the plot when it comes to being in “the big tent party”. If you want the bulk of the votes from leftists we need to have a seat at the table. If “pro-union” Joe won’t promise to back rail unions in 2025 then we don’t have a seat at the table and he doesn’t have our votes. It’s a good deal. Joe Biden should take this deal. You should be doing everything you can to tell Joe Biden he needs to take this deal.

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“Biden isn’t going to improve things so I’m going to actively make things worse for everyone, myself included.”

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I am not OP: If you can’t do shit for your constituents then that’s how things will fall into place.

Sometimes you gotta threaten to drag a stubborn person off the cliff along with you so they will not constantly push you towards the edge.

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“After Trump, our turn!”

Fucking morons.

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Bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if voting for fascism pays out for you

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The bold strategycompletely braindead decision was made by people who watched Hillary lose and decided to make the effort to show up to the 2020 primaries so they could vote for Joe Biden. I’m not faulting you for having a negative opinion about my decision but if you’re gonna mock people for dumb decisions surely some should be cast in that direction yeah?

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  • Is it a big-tent party of unity, or not?
  • Does my voice matter, or not?
  • Do you care about my voice, or not?
  • If progressive/left wing voters are such a minority as to not be worth considering, then why get so twisted if they vote third party or sit it out?

If the DNC wanted left coalitions or big-tent unity, they’d end FPTP elections and kill superdelegates. They can do both, but won’t try either. Bully coalition wings into unity every two years, then back to business as usual 😎

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Is it a big-tent party of unity, or not?

Depends, are you going to take one of the more progressive administrations this country has had and throw a hissy fit because it’s far from perfect, and hand victory over to a literal fascist who has promised to be a dictator on day one of his term?

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Aaaand there’s the bullying & strawman. Still going to vote for Biden despite FPTP

Somehow European countries manage to have center-left or left-left coalitions and maintain a stable government. It’s almost like they ✨got rid of shitty voting systems ✨that force parties to the right of the spectrum

…or is that perpetual looming threat a feature for the DNC, and not a bug? 🤔

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You can compromise with us or risk losing to fascists. Make a choice.

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The risk of losing to fascists is there either way. What, do you think that compromise with progressive positions is nothing but a net electoral gain? You’d have to be stone-dead stupid to look at the American electorate and believe that.

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Biden went back to get rail workers sick days and the news barely covered it. He’s really working to get things done.

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There are 12 rail unions. Tell me how many sick days every rail worker in each union has.

Keep in mind they were fighting for 15 sick days.

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That’s an obtuse request. He’s writing a comment on a book report.

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They said Biden went back to get rail workers sick days. That could mean anything from “Biden got two rail workers two sick days.” to “Biden got every rail worker more than 15 sick days.” What would be the appropriate level of detail, in your mind, to fairly assess the statement?

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“Backing unions is an easy win!” said no one who has been paying attention to US politics since the fucking 80s.

If Biden is serious about how Trump is the biggest threat we face then promising to veto any attempts to force another contract onto the rail unions is a bargain.

The entire reason why the government can force both the companies and the unions to an agreement, under a law that has been extant for almost a century, is because the rail system is vital to every part of the US’s continued functioning.

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Which is the bigger threat to US’s continued functioning? Donald Trump or a rail worker strike?

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