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massive tax cuts to the rich, kids in cages, shit health care

think about which administration do you want running the country

good god the self-own. like at least list a thing that the biden admin reversed after taking office jesus christ

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Lmao that Obama emoji is so good

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Trump began militarizing the border with Operation Gatekeeper in 1994.

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They mandated that the government not be able to call them ‘aliens’ anymore, they’re ‘migrants’ (migrants that we demonize while raising the ICE budget and detain them indefinitely in camps)

Biden pardoned a bunch of people convicted of marijuana possession (after they had been released to just ‘clean their records’, and they had to do the paperwork; also didn’t apply to ‘migrants’)

He…uhh…‘reportedly’ thinks Israel killing innocent Palestinians is wrong?

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Didn’t that “pardon” release literally 0 people from prison?

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Yes, he actually pardoned zero people.

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Yes, my phrasing on that was odd; the ‘pardon’ was basically just expunging their records, but it required the people being ‘pardoned’ to fill out the paperwork for the expungement

Also excluded anyone ‘illegally in the US’ explicitly

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Ok let’s apply that to Biden’s administration.

It acted like COVID magically went away or became the flu, ended COVID relief programs, fought rail unions tooth and nail on a new contract that included improved safety regulations all while the blatant disregard for rail safety was on full display, stood by as the Supreme Court struck down Roe v Wade and made decisions that greatly affected the right of POC and the LGBTQA community, whole heartedly feed an entire country (Ukraine) to the meat grinder to weaken Russia unsuccessfully, and is currently covering Israel’s ongoing genocide of Palestenians by regurgitating Israeli propaganda and providing military and material support.

Wow I really want these people to stick around

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This should be all of our response to any comment such as this going forward. Make them squirm.

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Brave comrades in the posting trenches

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Who are they? I’m out of the loop. Was thinking of voting for RFK JR just to be annoying but this might be better

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nah obv couldn’t speak for every single chapter but my local doesn’t do that

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Idk they catch a lot of hate around. There’s another rumor about sexual assault allegations at the national level or at least protecting perpetrators or something

, at least locally they’re one of the most involved orgs. They’ve led a lot of community cleanups and several protests for Palestine which I’ve attended at least one of the latter that went off fine.

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I voted for orb mom in the (Dem) primary.

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Do you did Trump did anything during his presidency?

Most literate liberal

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Well… Did you?

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I went far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like.

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37 points

Where did you did you back to?

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I did do did!

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Please let that sink in

Oh shut the fuck up

They’re both going to put kids in cages and gut healthcare, who do you think you’re kidding?

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Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Obama

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To be a bit more seriously, I’m not from the US but I’d be very careful. The MAGA movement might very well start rounding up trans people and whoever else they don’t like. Something like a “Kristallnacht”. They absolutely could turn the US into a fascist dictatorship. I hate the neoliberals too but from a tactical viewpoint you really should vote for Biden.

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I’m not voting for a genocide enabler

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The democrats will not meaningfully oppose that happening.

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The US is currently a fascist dictatorship. Both parties in the US function as a single unit uniparty. Don’t forget they repealed abortion rights under a democrat. The US legislator (Congress) is corrupted and captured and their supreme court is not different from Iran with religious fundamentalists that have lifetime appointments with power to review any case law. It literally doesn’t matter. The Kristallnacht is coming and no voting will stop it, just like voting never stopped the German Nazi’s. Is idea here to just have the Democrats win every election forever?

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not different from Iran

Hey, Iran’s had and kept abortion and trans rights for half a century, they never legalized money in politics. The US is so bad comparing it to something other than itself or the Nazis minimizes it.

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Hi

Several US states basically have trans laws that amount to rounding up trans people already, these laws passing within the last year or two

Who’s the current sitting president again? What party does he represent?

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If only more people had voted for Hindenburg, he would have won the election and Hitler would have never come to power.

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What make you think that the party who is already rounding up ethnic minorities in camps as we speak would do anything against the Republicans rounding up LGBTQ+ peoples in camps?

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I am in the US and this is how can show you, the Republicans will make things worse as fast as they can while they are in power, while the dems will slow down to a much slower pace, but will do nothing to make anything better, they also will not stop anything bad from happening, they just will not activly do anything evil or terrible. A trans friend of mine put it this way, the Dems get you to vote for them by putting a gun to your head and saying they are your only choice.

It gets worse once you find out that the Dems are some of the biggest donners to the far right congresional canidates, because they think they are easier to beat.

At the end of the day the only REAL difference between the 2 is rhetoric, and maybe 2 years max, and I think I am being genorous by saying that we can get 2 years more out of the dems. Both votes will lead to the same facist hell hole, its just what can of paint I want, and how I want it to happen

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It gets worse once you find out that the Dems are some of the biggest donners to the far right congresional canidates, because they think they are easier to beat.

Interesting, I wasn’t aware of this. It seems to be purely a political strategy that apparently paid off. But also seems incredibly dangerous.

The best strategy seems to be to delay. Trump is unlikely to make it to 2028 as a viable force. Hopefully some of the senile democrats will be gone too. If everything is going downhill it’s not a bad idea to slow down.

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as a trans person please don’t use my identity as a shield to justify people voting for a genocide. thanks

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Hey, we can apply longtermism too (and it won’t even be that long, maybe a few decades) and say “That’s unfortunately pretty likely no matter the timeline or specifically who gets elected when.” Maybe if it happens in 2025-6 instead of 2045-6 there’ll be less people around to genocide, and we might get a resolution to it quicker.

The US is certain to become a blatantly authoritarian state down the road, it is completely unsustainable and dependent on militarily destroying other places to launder money to its ruling class, then extracting surplus value from those places in the aftermath. It’s currently a heavily obfuscated fascist state, at least to most observers just struggling to get by under its propaganda and the arcane systems it and its collaborators have created.

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VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO

LMao

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