Minnesota burglars are using Wi-Fi jammers to disable home security systems::undefined

72 points

If it is running over Wi-Fi it isn’t really security, it is a toy. At the very best a visual deterrent for opportunistic people.

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46 points

So is all the locks on your door…

You can have a metal door with 3 deadbolts and a cast iron storm door also padlocked.

Still takes a small rock to break a window.

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14 points

“So are all”

And yes I agree, if people want to get in they are going to get in but a lot of people buying these cameras some how think they are suddenly immune to crime.

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11 points

Devils advocate: A masked figure who walked to my property and stole my stuff doesn’t solve who did it. If someone doesn’t want to get caught, there are always ways to prevent it.

Note: I don’t think people think they’re immune but they may not realize wifi can be jammed. Wired is better than wireless but sometimes wireless is the only way or only way to provide a camera to a certain spot that wouldn’t be covered otherwise. And then there’s renting where wired mods to the home/property may not be permitted. There are some use cases that make sense.

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“So are all”

Eh, depends.

All precautions you can take are just visual deterrents

Is correct, but so is

All precautions you can take is just a visual deterrent.

Because it’s talking about a singular group of things, whether you use “deterrents” or “deterrent” is what determines if an “is” or “are” is used.

The singular/plural is about if your talking about a bunch of visual deterrents or everything adding up into a singular visual deterrent.

So talking about “locks” as a group gets a singular deterrent and “is”. Logically it’s that all the locks are one singular visual deterrent rather than each lock being it’s own.

Doesn’t really matter tho, English is a pretty stupid language.

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13 points

Reminds me of one of my favorite scenes from Burn Notice.

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At the very best a visual deterrent for opportunistic people.

That’s what all security is though.

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No security system is going to prevent someone from just kicking in your door and stealing your shit in 2 minutes, then leaving.

But it’s great for insurance purposes and tracking down people after they leave. And if your door or window is opened during the middle of the night, an alarm system is going to be fantastic for alerting you to someone in your house.

WiFi security systems perform their function of deterrence, monitoring, and insurance claims just fine.

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Wow, I haven’t seen a more head-ass take since Linus last opened his mouth…

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39 points

So setting everything up wired with PoE was a pain, but worth it.

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16 points

This, but don’t forget to plug the router to a UPS!

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9 points

A pain and obviously I wish to never have a use for the recordings….

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27 points

They can’t do that, it’s illegal!

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17 points

Can’t we make crime illegal already?

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Maybe not in Minnesota??

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I guess if you’re going to break the law anyway what’s one more lawbreak. But I thought the FCC actively tracked down people using illegal frequency devices?

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thought the FCC actively tracked down people using illegal frequency devices?

It depends on the frequency being deployed. Shit operating in the 2/5 ghz spectrum doesn’t travel far at all, so unless an FCC agent is directly nearby when they’re doing this, it’s not going to be detected by them.

However, if you’re illegally blasting in the <1k mhz spectrum, that does travel far and more importantly it interferes with common bands used by public safety, air traffic controllers, DoD, etc (ATC is around 100mhz, public safety typically around 800mhz, DoD around 300mhz (although this varies)). That interference will definitely start being noticed and it’s a matter of time before you’re caught.

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I’m pretty sure those jammers (they saturate wifi band with trafic) are used only for burglary time, say 10-15 minutes, and very local, so the neighbour million$ mansion is far enough that they are not affected. How come FCC detect this?

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2 points

The FCC knows where my microwave is?

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You bet they do. They have trackers in every microwave sold. That’s how they track Taylor Swift to influence the Russians. -s

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“Minnesota”? Everyone, c’mon

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