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Glad he’s coming around

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Coming around? When was he on the wrong side of this issue?

His October 10 statement includes:

Right now, the international community must focus on reducing humanitarian suffering and protecting innocent people on both sides of this conflict. The targeting of civilians is a war crime, no matter who does it. Israel’s blanket denial of food, water, and other necessities to Gaza is a serious violation of international law and will do nothing but harm innocent civilians. The United States has rightly offered solidarity and support to Israel in responding to Hamas’ attack. But we must also insist on restraint from Israeli forces attacking Gaza and work to secure UN humanitarian access. Let us not forget that half of the two million people in Gaza are children. Children and innocent people do not deserve to be punished for the acts of Hamas.

October 10. 3 days after the initial attack.

Back in January he tried conditioning aid to Israel and requiring the state department to issue human rights report on their conducts.

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The Palestinian conflict did not start on Oct 7th it’s been happening for decades now. Specifically my gripes are with “The United States has rightly offered solidarity and support to Israel in responding to Hamas’ attack. But we must also insist on restraint from Israeli forces attacking Gaza and work to secure UN humanitarian access.” I do not agree that any support should have been given period, Israel has been a genocidal Zionist entity for a long time now and Sanders is well aware of this I’m certain. I’m also frustrated by his request for restraint as if anything other than the dismantling of the Israeli state could possibly suffice.

He is also a proponent of the two state solution which is inherently sympathetic to the settler colonial state.

I’m glad he is wants the genocide to stop but conditional fucking Israeli aid is not the way to do that. They should not be aided. Was it wise to aid apartheid South africa through continued trade relations? Was it right to vilify Mandela as a terrorist? Of course not, we can look back on these actions and see how wrong they were because we know what came to be. So why are we doing it again?

Yes obviously apartheid South Africa and the current palestinian genocide are not a flawless comparison but they are similar enough.

Essentially my point is that he has been much too sympathetic towards Israel for a while. Sure he’s probably one of the most radical politicians we have on this issue but I find that to be incredibly disheartening.

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Why is the two-state solution inherently sympathetic to the settler colonial state ?

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He never was. But he didn’t say the exact thing that people wanted him to, which is a mortal sin

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Wow 20 downvotes lol , are you saying he did not say this or are you just mad I pointed it out?

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-7 points

Then why does he keep give nickels to political parties supporting it?

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Who replaces Netanyahu? The crimes of Israel are not all rooted in one man.

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The crimes of Donald Trump were not rooted in one man either but getting rid of one major malignant tumor does help things along.

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did it though, nothing has really changed sense his presidency has ended and arguably it has all gotten worse, all be it at a SLIGHTLY less breakneck pace. Not only that but his popularity never weigned and he is poiesed to come back, and I will be honest as much as I do not want trump to come back I would be a fool to say I did not expect him to win the election in 2024.

So no, temporarily removing him did basicly nothing, except allow feckless liberals to go to brunch and ignore everything that is going on in the world

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6 points

It would take quite an argument for me to believe things are worse now than November of 2020.

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Cancer is prone to relapse.

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His replacement is (like the one he replaced) one of the most unpopular presidents in modern history, and is actively aiding the genocidal Netanyahu government.

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Can we all agree there was no good option in the Biden/Trump election?

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His replacement is (like the one he replaced) one of the most unpopular presidents in modern history

Biden: Unpopular
Trump: ???
Obama: Unpopular

And you get your facts from FOX News, right?

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Pretty sure you are comparing finacial fraud to genocide, maybe don’t do that.

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3 points

True but the difference here is the parliament keeps putting him back in power

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5 points

Facts! If Netanyahu is removed, it will just be like the US where the next guy is still evil but just lesser.

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Not even lesser, there’s always a chance that a more extreme person/system replaces them.

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Probably Benny Gantz.

The key benefit of the replacement being anyone who is not Netanyahu is that Netanyahu knows he is going to lose the next election and probably be arrested for prior crimes, so he personally has reason to keep the conflict going as long as possible.

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Yeah, I wonder what Sanders would do if it were up to him. Netanyahu is part of the problem but it’s so much bigger than him, especially after all the years he’s been in power influencing things.

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Bernie’s retiring from politics then?

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