49 points

Oh I’m so fucking sorry this manufacturer gave you clear instructions on how to recycle properly

Your life must be truly horrible 😂

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52 points

Nah, get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

Ignoring the fact that hardly any plastic is actually recyclable in the first place, your argument is that conscious consumers should accept additional responsibilities on the off chance that it MIGHT actually get recycled?

We figured out how to print on basically any surface a long time ago. How about we hold companies to a standard of responsible packaging, instead of yet again passing the buck to the end user.

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-9 points

this user probably thinks it’s too hard to collapse a cereal box before sending it to recycling

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13 points

I’m pretty sure the infuriating part is that the plastic label isn’t recyclable at all.

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15 points

We need both. We need companies to do more to make things out of easier to recycle or compost materials, and we need consumers to do more to separate things to make them easier to recycle. It’s far too late to push responsibilities around, we all need to be responsible.

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Yep, this package design is about awareness, as much as responsibility

The dipshit that replied to me is beyond that, but kids will grow up with it, and think about it

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hardly any plastic is actually recyclable

Almost every thermoplastic is recyclable easily, though not necessarily profitably (because the new materials are so cheap).

Recycling that PET bottle into a different usable object would involve cleaning it, cutting it into a shape appropriate for your chosen remanufacturing process (filament or flakes), heating it to melted but not too hot, then forming (fdm, molding, etc.).

My guess would be that getting a durable graphic printed on PET is more difficult since we don’t see that, and adhesive or wrapped labels are almost certainly more expensive than printing would be if it were easy.

Edit to add: I agree that more responsibility needs to be on the manufacturer, but don’t buy into the misinformation that plastic can’t be recycled. Make it more expensive to use new plastic than recycled material.

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You forgot about polymer shortening. During the first synthesis process from petroleum to the usual type of plastic, long polymer bonds are formed which give the plastic its malleable-yet-durable characteristics. During shredding to get the plastic into a more feedable shape (as in feedable through a hopper into an extruder to be melted) those polymers are shortened. This polymer shortening ends up leading to a more brittle plastic, and because of this new plastic beads are added to rejuvinate.

Because of this, recycling plastic inherently requires new plastic in its process, and old plastic is only recyclable for a few cycles until its essentially garbage being mixed into the process.

We are essentially just pushing out the inevitable, which will be that we’ll need to dispose of massive amounts of plastic waste that is unusable after a few cycles. I imagine we’ll eventually just have to compress this waste into blocks and bury those blocks deep underground like nuclear waste.

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Printing “this shit is milk” on a bottle is dirt cheap. It’s practically free. They probably already do it with the expiration date.

Problem is, some bright-eyed fuckfuck at PepsiCo realized they could sell more shit using labels with no visible dot matrix and a color palette with vomit-inducing vibrancy and 69 million shades. Approximately 90 seconds later, everyone else decided that they need to wrap their plastic in some plastic to “stay competitive”. The industry collectively stuffed some lunch money in Ronald H. W. Gore’s titty pocket, and here we are, decades later, with a mountain of unrecyclable garbage that no one even knew couldn’t be recycled. And it’s not even their fault, for the same exact reason we don’t expect people to know not to lick the lead paint off their mid-20th century coffee mugs.

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1 point

Look at the sub name. Now reread your comment. You’re missing the point.

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5 points

Tell me you don’t understand what community you’re in without actually telling me lmao

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10 points

Plastic is better off just going in the trash. The ability to recycle it is largely a lie. Especially plastic that touched food as it needs to be clean to recycle.

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18 points

This is absolute nonsense.

In Germany, between 38-48% of plastic is recycled (source). Sure, that‘s far from all of it, but still far, far better than nothing.

The recycling rate might be lower in other countries, but just giving up and putting everything in the regular trash is probably the worst thing you could do.

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Still there is the issue, that recycling plants seem to pollute their surroundings with microplastics by just washing the plastic

Obviously recycling is good, but with plastic it seems we’re not in a place to handle it reasonable in any way…

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Stop spouting this nonsense please. It might be true for the USA, but other countries have their shot together and in fact do recycle plastic.

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19 points

It could be recycled, it’s just that the world is too cheap to bother with it.

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14 points

Recycling has always been a lie to make you feel good about consumption. If it’s not a valuable commodity, it just goes to the dump anyways.

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21 points

Recycling only works when the price of the material is high enough to justify the reclamation process. It doesn’t work for plastic because of the insane subsidies given to the petroleum industry. If we had a significant enough carbon tax, you’d start seeing more actual plastic recycling.

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It can be IF its

  • clean
  • dry
  • its the same type of plastic
  • its not a bag/foil/film
  • all the other materials are clean and dry in the same lot.

Even after all that, it’s really only useful in downcycling.

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What kills me is that just a couple morons can contaminate a large batch of recyclables, that could’ve otherwise been perfect. But I guess humanity will always have this sort of problem, until it kills us.

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6 points

Imagine doing something slightly inconvenient, let alone something that can take a whole second.

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8 points

I think the point was, you’re removing plastic from plastic to recycle plastic. The plastic you removed won’t be recycled. So…what’s the point? It’s terrible package design.

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2 points

In a world where ‘more brands = more freedom’ for some reason companies just compete on fancy packaging, and we support by buying them (bcs of lack of alternatives).

We don’t need oil based plastics at all, only if we let the market innovate.

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The plastic you’re removing can’t be recycled. if left on the bottle, some recycling centers (maybe most actually) just throw out the bottle because it’s more cost effective then preparing the bottle for recycling.

Any and all plastic bottles experience this problem (plastic bottle caps are bad too). This is a company making it more likely your bottle will be recycled, by making it easier to remove the non recyclable materials.

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2 points

Yes.

They don’t recycle even the recyclable part or alternatively the unrecyclable part gets burned off in the process (both bad options).

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5 points

Welcome to Mildly Infuriating.

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2 points

Yeah, I guess you are right.

The whole system is (intentionally) super infuriating & inconvenient.

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I think you are on to something, mr Whistleblower. Keep digging and call Greta when you have drawn conclusions! In the meantime, move stealthily, they may be watching! :-)

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30 points

It all gets dumped in the ocean

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13 points

nah, we put ours in the hillside. trash hill’s getting chonky

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2 points

Trash hill got back

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6 points

Future archeologists will be confuss

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I don’t mind, as long as there are some

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