I created a google takeout and in that zip file I found some files containing a ton of data about me. It has logged every single page I visited while using the google search engine and chrome browser. It even logged every single time I opened an app on my old android phone. It even has VOICE RECORDINGS of me and a log of every time I used google assistant. This is just some of the data and I’m very sure there is even more data they have.

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How do you think they are able to pay the bills of those expensive af services for free?

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Fortunately you can degoogle many Android phones. And stop using big tech products in general. They have a lot of issues, not only a complete lack of privacy

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I might be looking into a new phone soon, what do you suggest?

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A pixel, if you buy into GrapheneOS being the pinnacle of security. Otherwise, anything with an unlockable bootloader and LineagOS support.

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Graphene gang representing

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It’s actually quite ironic that the best phone to degoogle your life is sold by google.

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Dont forget CalyxOS. IMHO better than Graphene

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Ironically enough, Google Pixels are great phones if you need to de-google with GrapheneOS.

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I just can’t buy it and support them

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Or CalyxOS

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GrapheneOS is amazing

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Can you use banking apps on it?

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If you want a normie phone that you can install a privacy-focused OS on, Google Pixel is a surprisingly good option. Just take a look at the LineageOS’s and GrapheneOS’s officially supported devices lists before purchasing a specific model. You can also choose Xiaomi or Motorola but you won’t be able to lock the bootloader with a custom OS installed on that phones which can create some vulnerabilities. If you want to run Linux on your phone though, you either need a PinePhone or a OnePlus 6 series

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Look for DivestOS supported devices. What I cannot recommend is Fairphone. Several Hardware issues, support refuses to accept them. The support in general is horrible.

Kind regards
A Fairphone 4 user with /e/OS

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Look at which devices are supported my grapheneos, calyxos, /e/os and ubuntu touch/droidian and get the newest one of those that you can afford. Usually a google pixel (ironically) but also fairphone are well supported and are better IMO.

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Ubunto Touch is still a thing? Does it get updated forever like normal Linux distros do?

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I bought a fairphone 4 awhile ago from Murena, the only US distributor. Other phones have more bells and whistles but I feel better knowing I can repair it if something goes wrong. If you’re in Europe the FP5 is a good bet but I don’t think anyone is selling them in North America. I don’t know about distribution elsewhere.

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Get a Pixel and install a custom ROM. Any ROM is fine, just dont install gapps. You actually have to go out of your way to install google crap. By default a new install is google-free

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They may even save every Google meet meeting for all we know. They may train their AI on how our faces look in meetings.

Nothing is too creepy for Google.

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Why would they need that? There is plenty of your face on Google photos.

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For you, maybe. Mine is filled with black screen pocket photos, furry porn, and 714 copies of a video of a horrifying mecha furby that’s stepping on its own removed face.

Another copy shows up every time I have a nightmare about it, which is pretty odd, now that I think about it.

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Why would they need that? Let me introduce you to Big Data.

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The faces training was all of the filters. Every single time someone took a video or picture and used filters to add cute moe eyes, or make themselves look like a crab, it was being used to make whichever company was doing it have a better bottom line or to accelerate their facial recognition.

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51 points

don’t forget if you have location enabled in your phone it tracks every single place you’ve been to

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It does that even if you turn it off. The setting just controls location access by third party apps.

Lineage os and F-droid is the better solution. It has the advantage of being bloat free as well

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You can also use GPS location without any google services running, it just takes a bit longer to find your position when you first connect. OsmAnd or Organic maps from f-droid, which are actually superior apps to google maps in a lot of ways, particularly OsmAnd.

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These apps cannot find addresses in the US. Just a heads up so anyone that sees this doesn’t pull their hair out trying to figure it out. No, it isn’t you, it’s the app.

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I had to use Satstat to reset the AGPS data as Lineage os just won’t refresh agps on its own.

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Yeah Google Maps isn’t actually a map app. Its for navigation.

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And it can be very wrong about those locations, too. For better or worse, idk. My old phone showed me going to completely different cities on the other side of my state when I went to the corner store.

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What’s even scarier is that takeout is probably only the data they want you to see, or are legally obliged to share.

I would be willing to wager they have lots more on you that you’re not even aware of.

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including everything they see through our front camera and rear cameras 😱

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Idk about that. What data could they get with that, that they can’t already get through other (cheaper) means, that would justify all the network traffic and storage space?

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