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People complain because they have to chmod +x a Shell file

A tale as old as the internet.

You’re giving them way too much credit, they just need to ask “Chat” how to run the code. That’s how 16-20 year olds refer to ChatGPT. It’s two minutes of copy paste and “how do I run this”

I’m pretty sure “chat” means Twitch chat. Streamers usually asks “chat” for questions, and teenagers have adopted this vocabulary for everyday use.

That’s how 16-20 year olds refer to ChatGPT.

As a 17 year old, I hear this for the first time.

Maybe it’s regional at my university, but I’ve heard it from multiple students over the past three semesters.

The funny thing is many file managers in Linux allow you to enable execution in a properties panel. The problem is with so many different apps the terminal is universal and works about the same everywhere.

Free shit is still shit. There’s plenty in the park.

STUPID FUCKING SMELLY NERDS

I can kinda vibe with that. Worst I’ve ever seen was installation instructions posted in a Discord server.

Jokes on you all the good software you’ve never heard of has obscure and hard to find instructions for a reason.

They also have crazy long config files. All but like two lines in the file will be the same for everyone.

Except the program also is ignoring half the config file and is instead using hardcoded values.

Oh and there are six different config files all in different directories. Why? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That’s the worst you’ve ever seen? lol

i quit my CS degree 2 years in because these sorts of people are the absolute worst at empathizing with a problem and giving a clear and fair answer. the attitude is usually that if you’re asking at all, you didn’t try hard enough to figure it out yourself. how dare you make me do my job

It’s an open source developer’s job to teach you how to run a script?

Didn’t it sound like they were talking about their professors?

If you give normies a solution they will bother you all the time. If you teach normies how to nerd they will leave you the fuck alone.

That implies people bother to teach them, which isn’t the case.

No they won’t. They’ll remember nothing other that the fact you know what they don’t, and bother you about everything.

I understand where your coming from but this example is awful because it’s literally git clone, pip install and you’re good to go.

how dare you make me do my job

Ah yes, the open source dev “job” with it’s very lucrative paycheck of $0 lmfao

Sure that’s why you quit.

Steps to building a cool program (the really cool way)

Clone the GitHub repository
Open command prompt
Run the build command
It fails because the repository owner uses a different c++ compiler and it only works with that one
It fails again, realize you installed visual studio wrong somehow so spend an hour trying to get the visual studio installer to find and uninstall it before deleting the installation directory entirely and installing the required version again
It still fails, the project looks for version “” of protobuf but you have “3.1.10.1” so you reconfigure it to look for a real version of protobuf
It fails again, some tool that isn’t in the readme is required to build it
It fails again, it’s not actually compatible with windows yet
Give up and wait for pre built binaries

Edit: did the other guy that responded block me? I got a notification about it but can’t load the comment

Hey welcome to our group session. Just know that we all have been hurt by C++ build systems and this is a safe space

I feel so welcome, thank you

I used to run Slackware and have built many, many packages this way.

These days…gimme a .deb, please. It’s not that I can’t do it…it’s that I want to do other things.

RE: edit: they apparently deleted their comment

Makes sense, their response made no sense anyways lol

Even now it’s telling me that there’s an extra comment it can’t load

Yuck, imagine using M*crosoft’s C++ compiler 🤮

Weren’t we all, at one point?

If you want Blender with CUDA support from source… Man, this is the way. Thank God for their benevolence in releasing build binaries.

I sure learned a ton while painfully trying to figure it all out though! Lol

A meme made in response (not by me):

Oh shit that’s an old one but still great

I agree that github is for developers or people who at the very least don’t mind learning a bit of development and getting their hands dirty. The poster demanding an exe is quite entitled - and also from what I understand the repo he is referring to is a python repo, so there normally wouldn’t be an exe, it’d just be run via a python command.

There’s a bigger problem here, which is that technical skill in newer generations is also decreasing - as someone on reddit had once said “I’m a millennial and I’m doing tech support for my parents as well as my children”. A generation raised on tablets and phones have gotten the false impression of being tech savy, when their actual technical skill is using end products.

Expecting every github repo to provide you with something you just click-and-run is overlooking the complexities and reality of how code is. By it self that isn’t a problem, but the entitlement it takes to publicly and arrogantly post that on a public forum is astounding and counter-productive to people who work on those small repos.

Nobody has any idea how old this poster is, it could be an old ass boomer as easily as it could be a zoomer and we’re just going on making statements about the technical abilities of new generations without any actual evidence other than a single person that can’t do something for themselves? There are many, many people from my graduating class who would be as helpless as this person and I’m fucking 30.

The same thing happened in the previous generation too. Some boomer would start raging about how these millennials don’t know how to fix cars or install toilets or whatever anymore based on one cherry picked example and the other 95% of boomers that have been paying a mechanic or a plumber this whole time and don’t know how to do shit would just nod along.

Yes, but knowing how to install a toilet the difficult way (instead of hiring a plumber) was replaced by knowing how to install a program the difficult way (via a command line instead of an installer).

Now, Zoomers aren’t stupid or tech illiterate, I have a Zoomer friend and she’s more tech literate than I am. The issue is that installing a program the hard way has been replaced with minimizing your carbon and digital footprints. That’s not the skill of a super predator, its the skill of prey. We’ve been reduced to prey for the shareholders of corporations.

Is this the power of millennials? Being relatively competent at technology?

I would argue that “development” is a superset of “pc operation” which includes things like opening a terminal, issuing commands, installing things, and occasionally light scripting and programming.

At some point these things should be middle school literacy, but maybe not, I’m probably biased.

There are people whose entire understanding and knowledge of the internet exists entirely inside the Facebook app

Buy phone Install Facebook The end.

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