I thought he was like one of the most important whistleblowers of our time exposing war crimes and shit. Some of you don’t wanna see him live another day, why is that?

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I found the multiple allegations of rape to be credible. I don’t support rapists.

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that didn’t happen… he was never actually accused of rape, and the women who had complained about him retracted their complaints and said they were used as part of a political conspiracy against him.

he had condoms break while having sex with two different women who didn’t know about each other. it was a questionable coincidence, there was a question about if he had torn condoms on purpose… the women had only wanted him to be compelled to take an hiv test.

now tell me more about why you found “multiple allegations” credible???

that has been quite publicly disproven for quite some time now…

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Yeah, not sorry, I don’t debate people who rabidly support rapists, either.

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he has literally never even been accused of raping anyone
can you not read?
im not saying he’s innocent, i’m saying there was never actually any real accusation…

but, clearly you’re a rapist or you wouldn’t be saying that.

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the women who had complained about him retracted their complaints and said they were used as part of a political conspiracy against him.

Could you please source this claim?

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The WSWS continued: “The reason why there are still no charges placed against Assange is that the claims made by his accusers are not credible. His relations with the two women were consensual… An initial investigation of August 20, 2010 was dropped and an arrest warrant against Assange cancelled the next day by one of Stockholm’s chief prosecutors, Eva Finne, who said in a statement to the press: ‘I don’t think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape.’ The reissue of the warrant took place only after the intervention of Swedish Chief Prosecutor Marianne Ny on September 1, 2010.”

see also: assange was interviewed in sweden by prosecutors, was given permission to leave, and then the warrant was issued after he left…
assange claimed there were secret charges being brought against him in america, and this was all a pretext to get him extradited there, as sweden has very automatic extradition treaties with the us…
after they ecuador was taken over by fascists and assange was kicked out of asylum, wouldn’t you know it but america began their extradition process…

after looking into it, it seems only one woman retracted her accusations… but that doesn’t change a whole lot as: he wasn’t charge, they only requested him for questioning, dropped the charges… and the timing is a little more than suspicious…

if he were a rapist, yeah then i’d be against him, of course… but if you break it all down, with a timeline of what they released on whom, it’s hard to take such accusations at face value.

here, we have Sweden officially dropping charges (again) in 2019. Because

the evidence “has weakened considerably.”

as in, the one other person the cia was paying to accuse him had changed her story? maybe? we’ll never know… the one person who continued, her story never changed and was never discredited (“credible”)…
so, it’s still a very bad maybe
but again, give who and what he was leaking info on (us war crimes, entire u.s. embassy secret cables, the cia’s illegal “vault 7” spying stuff), one has to actually have really solid proof to consider negative publicity about this person… i’m sure he’s very flawed, but to just believe, on faith, these accusations is kinda whack…
(p.s. the Vault 7 leaker was “caught” with CSAM on his computer… which is a surprising coincidence and something that makes it taboo to talk about him at all anymore… also odd that a cia contractor with access to all of the cia’s hacking tools, wasn’t able to hide his own files, but i digress)

another strange coincidence happened in 2019 with assange

On 11 April 2019, Ecuador revoked his asylum, he was arrested for failing to appear in court, and carried out of the Embassy by members of the London Metropolitan Police.[391] Following his arrest, the US revealed a previously sealed 2018 US indictment in which Assange was charged with conspiracy to commit computer intrusion

oh, and as to who he was leaking info on using fake and/or trumped up sex charges to make silence them, i would like to cite the Dead Kennedy’s “I Am the Owl”[1981]

I am your plumber, no I never went away I still bug your bedrooms and pick up everything you say It can be a boring job To monitor all day your excess talk I hear when you’re drinking and cheating on your lonely wife I play tape recordings of you to my friends at night We’ve got our girl in bed with you You’re on candid camera, we just un-elected you, ha I am the owl I seek out the foul Wipe ‘em away, keep America free For clean-livin’ folks like me, hey, hey

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“We had several leaks sent to Wikileaks, including the Russian hack. It would have exposed Russian activities and shown WikiLeaks was not controlled by Russian security services,” the source who provided the messages wrote to FP. “Many Wikileaks staff and volunteers or their families suffered at the hands of Russian corruption and cruelty, we were sure Wikileaks would release it. Assange gave excuse after excuse.”

Because obvious Russian asset is obvious.

Here’s the full story

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according to chat messages and a source who provided the records.

if you’re going to pretend like that’s solid proof, then you’re the asset.

assange did also mention that they were reluctant to publish russian documents because russia isn’t reluctant to assassinate people

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russia isn’t reluctant to assassinate people

Look at me, I care about human freedoms so much that my life is more important, so I’ll help Russia to paint a skewed picture instead.

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so I’ll help Russia to paint a skewed picture instead.

nice try, shilly… but there’s a huge difference between “reluctant to get killed by russia” and “helping them paint a skewed picture”

btw, the DNC leaks were not from a russian hacker, they were from Seth Rich, who was killed for it.

also, america was off limits for many years for similar reasons.
and they’re still in the process of extraditing him to slowly kill him in prison

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Truthfully it was also articles about them releasing DNC hacks but refusing to do rnc hacks that seemed most obvious to me.

At best they’re extremely partisan at worst they are a Russian asset.

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refusing to do rnc hacks

no they did not! they never had leaks from the RNC and as such, could not release it.
you know they don’t do any hacking, right?
people (usually whistleblowers) leak info to wikiLEAKS, and then they verify it and publish it.
they would love to do rnc leaks if they had that information…

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Unlike the US who is known to be very tolerant towards its enemies /s

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Hillary Clinton wanted him assassinated… but yeah they don’t usually assassinate journalists

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Couldn’t have that in a personality cult

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couldn’t have non sequitur statements? well you just did

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Yeah, quite a few that opposed Putin just so happen to walk out of windows and poison themselves, one even put cuffs on beat the shit out of himself and gladly ate poison, while locked up

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and let’s not forget Alexei Navalny

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Because propaganda works.

  • The USA created some thoroughly disproven ‘rape’ charges (it was never a rape charge but that was the media reporting and most people don’t read beyond headlines).

  • Classic painting of him as a traitor. We have ‘evidence’ you can’t see that he works for [insert enemy here]

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Because people with money told the actors they hire to pretend to inform you of current events to only say that he’s bad because he represents a threat to their class.

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figures the correct answer has all the downvotes…

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I heard Q likes him

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they like all sorts of stupid crazy shit… that doesn’t matter at all

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Funny how hearing a message associating someone with a movement, true or not, swayed your opinion. Almost as if it proves my point.

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The same bad actors have muddied the lines through limiting online discourse and pushing their message consistently enough to drag some well meaning, but lacking in critical thinking skills, people to join the cause.

Like algorithms for social media, they’ll feed you little bits that become normalized, and sudde ly the stuff that was crazy 5 years ago seems tame and pointless to fight against now.

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because every time you type in “wikileaks” or “assange” online, an army if shills come in saying easily disproven lies about him.

he’s not that widely hated by real people… but everyone’s afraid to talk about him

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