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lmao, no it doesn’t. the US didn’t go to Afghanistan to eradicate opium. the US didn’t give a shit about it at all, lmao.

do tankies so blindly hate the US that they’ll give the Taliban a bj just to try to make the US look bad? wow…

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The Afghanistan Papers: A Secret History of the War is a summary of the Washington Post’s reporting on Afghanistan, specifically on the US government’s own internal assessments from all levels of the military and political administration. In it, you’ll find this quote:

Of all the failures in Afghanistan, the war on opium ranked among the most feckless. During two decades, the United States spent more than $9 billion on a dizzying array of programs to deter Afghanistan from supplying the world with heroin. None of the measures worked. In many cases, they made things worse.

The US doesn’t need “tankies” or anyone else to make themselves look bad as far as the Afghan drug trade goes.

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lmao, so? we get it. you hate the US. what’s your point? just to come here and whine about it?

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Ha you were conclusively proven wrong and didn’t even blink. A brain so smooth no facts can get stuck on it.

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lmao, so? we get it. you hate learning. what’s your point? just to come here and whine about it?

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person replies back with factual evidence contradicting your personal beliefs in a foreign war, “lmao, so?”

Where is here? The World News community? The only one I see whining is the pickle. Is this a small step away from saying people should go back from where they came from and leave this social space you’ve claimed as your own? IDK wtf you’re thinking coming into someone else’s post, refuting verified evidence, then proclaiming hate because its context makes the US look subpar. What’s your point, you love the US, why come on here and have to ignorantly shout it?

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We also didn’t threaten to kill the farmers for growing it. No shit the Taliban was successful. Comply or die. They’re the ones who were profiting from it anyway. Now that they’re in charge again, religion trumps financial needs.

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I’m pretty sure the Talibans (not to defend them, mind you), were already cracking down on poppy farming before 9/11 and the subsequent decade long war.

So how were they benefitting? Or do you mean to say the US and allied forces allowed mass poppy crop farming that was then utilized by the Taliban to fund itself? You know there is an alternative hypothesis: the US and other occupation allied forces tolerated poppy farming to pacify and win over tribal chiefs and keep corrupt Afghan officials squarely on their side. Maybe both were happening, who is to say.

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Financed their war effort. We valued the whole hearts and minds over destroying farmers livelihood.

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The US doesn’t need any help looking bad

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it must be easy to say whatever you want when you don’t have to worry about facts, lol

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80% of worlds’s opioids consumption is in USA which has 4,6% of worlds population.

That’s what they are doing, waging Third Opium War on their own people.

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Intelligence agencies love the drug trade because:

  1. It’s easy (certainly for a state actor) dark money
  2. It’s ubiquitous
  3. It gives you blackmail material on all sorts of useful people
  4. It gives you the proven ability to smuggle bulk quantities across the globe
  5. Who is going to blow the whistle on you?
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A reminder that the Taliban only exists because the US funded the Mujahideen during the Soviet-Afghan war

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To be technical, did the US actually fund the Taliban when it got started? The Pakistani intelligence service did, and the Taliban were only able to take power because of the US-backed Mujahideen alliance rapidly descended into civil war when the Soviets pulled out and the Afghan government fell, but idk.

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But wasn’t Pakistan also thoroughly a US puppet at this point?

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And still is. The US did a soft coup in Pakistan earlier this year

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All the armaments the US supplied (most of which actually came from China) to the Mujahideen was distributed by Pakistani intelligence services - that is true. However, the US knew perfectly well who the Pakistanis were giving these weapons to - it had been longstanding US foreign policy SOP to nurture and support far-right, reactionary Islamism as a counter to middle-eastern nationalism. That’s the reason the “big bads” in the middle-east now are people like Osama and not people like Arafat.

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This is one of the dumbest articles I ever read. The entire government changed. Taliban can be dictators. The US couldn’t. On top of this, they essentially had two years to switch to wheat before this occurred. Something that was less economically feasible over two years ago due to an unfortunate food shortage in the area now.

Asking why someone couldn’t get something done as quickly as a dictator is something a naive child asks.

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Somebody else pointed out MintPress is tankie bullshit.
These scum are everywhere on lemmy.ml, I swear.

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What facts does that change. Do you have a seperate non-tankie source that says the US did everything it could to stop opium production? It’s quite clear letting it go on suited them.

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