The contents of the Israeli Association of Rape Crisis Center’s paper alleging “systematic” Hamas rape derive largely from discredited second-hand testimonies and debunked media reports. Among its most heavily cited sources is a dubious NY Times article that triggered a staff revolt at the paper.

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Is anyone else seeing these stories the last couple of days and bracing for some horrific evidence of

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The systematic and intentional rape of Palestinians by Isreali troops and settlers

thats probably like a week from coming out? We know it’s all projection, we know they see Palestinians as “human animals”, we’ve seen the contrast between the chipper umharmed Isreali prisoners and the traumatized wraithlike Palestinians that were released during the prisoner exchange. We’ve seen the piles of bloody body bags in the desert and the reports of organ theft. It’s clear which side views the other as human beings and which side does not, howthe fuck are they gonna expect us to believe that akshually Hamas are the rapists, other than just banking on racism?

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I did not upvote this because I’m worried I will be accused of antisemitism

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Not immediately reflexively endorsing every Israeli action in perpetuity is antisemetic, I’ve reported you to the ICC.

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In this case, it might also be a good call because of the source

I’d prefer some other agency reported the story given Grayzone’s track record

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The main criticism ‘established’ western-aligned media uses to attack The Grayzone is that they have maintained and shown evidence for ISIL using chemical weapons against Syrians, whereas the western narrative is that it was the Syrian government.

Two days ago, OPCW (The UN) came to the same conclusion as the Grayzone.
https://www.opcw.org/media-centre/news/2024/02/opcw-identifies-isil-perpetrators-2015-chemical-attack-marea-syria
They explicitly say that no one other than ISIL is a probable suspect.

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one of the sources was literally “confidential information”

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“Trust us bro”

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Yikes lottt of posts ITT not giving lemmy a super great look

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Blegh every war is a crime. I don’t know if there has ever been a war that didn’t involve rape. Even the allies in WWII (“a just war”) were infamous for that, both in the European and Pacific theaters. So it’s not surprising now.

But yes, any Hamas who commit atrocities, may they burn in hell if there is such a place. Same as IDF and settlers who do so.

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I’m pretty sure the American troops are still raping people in Japan.

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Statistically, sure, there must’ve been rape cases in Japan with american perpetrators. I wouldn’t say that’s relevant in any way to the discussion, though.

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