doing something violent to the communal spaces in their community
That seems counterproductive, let’s do something violent to the fash spaces in our community.
I know this is the Onion but the left is inherently anti-authoritarian and advocate of horizontal structure of society with no top-down leadership. Of course we’d be disorganised 😂 Case in point, this and the hodge podge of left wingers in the Spanish Civil War ranging from communist, social democrats, democratic socialists to anarcho-syndicalists. Spanish leftists even attacked each other. The Democrats also don’t even get along and this is why Republicans under Trump is gaining more headway.
I’m proud that we’re maverick, but this also leads to our characteristic factionalism and thus easier to be disrupted and destroy.
No, it isn’t, You’re describing some forms of social libertarianism or rational anarchism, and calling them left. The philosophy i hear out of left identifying people these days is people desperate for lack of responsibility and wanting to be controlled by some parental government takes care of everything.
I quit respecting people who’s whole idea of political intellectualism iswhatever makes them feel good (usually couched in fancy talk and circular logic, with a side of disguising selfishness in false altruism) regardless of anything else, when i started to see the consequences of that philosophy. Anyways, for some reason he wanted to pretend things that fall right are left for some reason.
For American sensibilities born from classical liberal values, you’re correct.
The political “left” is a big umbrella term, like the “right” is. Generally speaking, the left broadly wants distribution of resources and management to be more horizontal. The debate is how to achieve that. Some want total worker control, others believe a democratically elected government should be empowered to distribute wealth equitably. The most extreme and dystopian form is a parental centralised authority enforcing equality should do it, as you mentioned.
On the right, they may believe in personal freedom but still uphold that human society still thrives in hierarchy. “You’re homeless? It is your fault and not my problem.” Many on the right believe you have to work hard to achieve your goals but through your own blood, sweat and tears. You have to keep up or you will be out competed. Some on the right still believe that government still has some role to help others, while some disagree. The most extreme form on the right is fascism, which advocates for total control of everything and order and hierarchy are utmost importance.
You never notice how the crazy old men hiding up alone in the mountains wanting to be left alone by the government and everyone are somehow always called right wing when the government comes for them, often in a very fascist manner?
This is too funny and hits the mark. Groups like ANTIFA and BLM during the protests don’t get to be traceable groups exactly because of alphabet agency interest. Behind the Bastards podcast talks about their opsec being deliberately lacking organization of a sort exactly because they knew getting a distributed and traceable hierarchy of leadership would get everyone arrested, the were actively being infiltrated by alphabet agency types. They went out of their way to operate in independent cells of which only a few members had a way to contact another member in a group, etc. so that there was no list of leaders and members to be found. Deliberate disorganization. The Onion nails it again.
No, sorry. It’s been a year or three since I heard it, and I don’t remember if it was one of the It Could Happen Here episodes or a regular BtB one. You might have better luck than me searching for it. He primarily focused on the Portland protests.
Shit, you just reminded me of it could happen here. lol.
I started listening to it a while after the 2020 protests, while living in Portland, and was super surprised realizing that it was from like a year or two before.
Man, that one was scary. By then we had those big fires where crazy fucks and their pig friends were blocking roads and stopping people to ask where they were going because they’d been told that antifa was starting the fires. That’s when I realized it would legit be impossible to try and escape back to CA in an emergency.
I said this recently, I’ll say it again here. I’ll never forget how Americans turned on protestors in Portland. This is America
/rant ✌🏽
This is just real news
Gods trying to get my friends to think about pushing politicians leftward on the scale of 4/6/8 years pissed them off. They will only focus efforts on yelling at Biden to drop out as if it will happen or help. They don’t care that no world exists where they are remotely happy in nov 2024, that’s the only thing they can think about
This is where the old adage “Don’t let perfect stand in the way of progress” applies.
Biden may not even be considered progress by some, but at least he’s not a rapid sprint backwards into fascism.
Part of the problem the left currently faces, regardless of revolutionary thought in general, is that environmental concerns are past the election cycle.
It is already too late to stop global warming at the 1.5 C target suggested in 2018.
Gradual reform will be too late. There is no way around it, we are acting too slow, and even if every country in the world flipped Green or whatever in 2028 that might still be too late.
“Too late” is the exact language the fossil fuel execs want you to use. Even if specific targets are passed, every fraction of a degree matters. Stopping warming at 2 is better than 2.1 so if electing Biden puts us on the 2°c track thats better, and maybe the 2028 candidate can put us on the 1.8°C track. Thats a difference worth fighting for
