I first used Linux about 5 years ago (Ubuntu). Since then, I have tried quite a few distros:
Kali Linux (Use as a secondary)
Linux Mint (Used for a while)
Arch Linux (Could not install)
Tails (Use this often)
Qubes OS (Tried it twice, not ready yet)
Fedora (Current main)
For me, it has been incredibly difficult to find a properly privacy oriented Linux distro that also has ease of use. I really enjoy the GNOME desktop environment, and I am most familiar with Debian. My issue with Fedora is the lack of proper sandboxing, and it seems as though Qubes is the only one that really takes care in sandboxing apps.
Apologies if this is the wrong community for this question, I would be happy to move this post somewhere else. I’ve been anonymously viewing this community after the Rexodus, but this is my first time actually creating a post. Thank you!
UPDATE:
Thank you all so much for your feedback! The top recommended distro by far was SecureBlue, an atomic distro, so I will be trying that one. If that doesn’t work, I may try other atomic distros such as Fedora Atomic or Fedora Silverblue (I may have made an error in my understanding of those two, please correct my if I did!). EndeavourOS was also highly recommended, so if I’m not a fan of atomic distros I will be using that. To @leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone, your suggestion for Linux Mint Debian Edition with GNOME sounds like a dream, so I may use it as a secondary for my laptop. Thank you all again for your help and support, and I hope this helps someone else too!
Fedora Silverblue uses flatpaks for most apps by default. The exception is Firefox because the codes haven’t been sandboxed yet, but they are working on it. If you don’t need to play videos in Firefox, there is a flatpak available.
I realize Firefox is probably the biggest thing that really should be sandboxed, its why I haven’t switched to Silverblue yet.
I recently switched to Mullvad Browser from Librewolf (both are Firefox based), do those still fall under the same conditions?
None of these fall under those conditions, idk where he got that info from. I’ve been using the LibreWolf Flatpak for months now and everything works just fine, including playing videos.
It’s in the Silverblue FAQ: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/faq/#_how_can_i_play_more_videos_in_firefox_like_youtube
Admittedly, it does say you can use the flathub version.
The Firefox official flatpak on flathub plays videos fine. It can even use vaapi if you install that.
Interesting, I wonder why Silverblue hasn’t switched yet. Or maybe the documentation is out of date.
You can use BubbleJail or FireJail for sandboxing FireFox.
I recently tried a bunch of distros. I’ve been using Linux since 2001 and I’ve been using Ubuntu mostly (or KDE, xfce, mate flavors). I, too, am concerned with privacy and am looking for something simple which allows me to pay PC games with steam.
I tried Endeavour OS, which is a slightly more user friendly, game oriented Arch distro with tools for installing gaming software and drivers, POP! OS which is an Ubuntu based gaming oriented distro as well with a Gnome desktop by default, and Elementary OS, based on Ubuntu, which has a kind of Gnome, MacOS looking interface, but not specifically for gaming.
All of them address the privacy issue by not including the telemetry packages.
The best out of the three in my opinion was Elementary OS. It’s absolutely gorgeous, easy to use and allows you to focus on what you need to do without any hassle. You can install most of your apps through flatpaks if that’s what you’re looking for. And there are no snaps, but you have the option of installing it if you want.
Those are all great suggestions, thank you! Have you encountered any obvious issues or pitfalls that I should avoid?
Unless you’ve used Arch before or that you’re a Linux power user (meaning you’re not afraid of using a terminal and messing around with config files using a text editor), I would probably stay away from Endeavour OS. But if you don’t mind messing around a bit and having to configure your stuff through the terminal, then I think it’s a great option, especially for gaming. Endeavour isn’t as bleeding edge in its software packages as the OG Arch so it’s going to be more stable and less prone to bugs and hickups. Plus I found having the tools to set up stuff like NVidia graphics drivers and Steam and other game launcher alternatives pretty damn awesome. Plus, during the installation, if you select to get the online repos to install, you can pick which desktop environment to use, including Gnome.
POP! is so god damn simple. And upon first boot you get a bunch of dialogues to help you with setting up your gaming stuff including drivers. The app store has all the gaming stuff like Steam and other launchers right at the top. The default desktop is Gnome with a custom panel at the bottom. And it’s all based on Ubuntu LTS, so it’s stable, but it might lag behind in software versions. Everything just worked out of the box. I don’t think you’d face any pitfalls here. And the Debian packaging system, as you probably know, is very similar to Fedora’s.
Elementary OS had some hiccups on first boot. The default web browser is Gnome Web (AKA Epiphany) installed as a flatpak. For some reason on my VM, page renders were all blank white pages. I had to install the Flatseal flatpak to fix some graphical option with the Gnome Web flatpak permissions. But you can also get Firefox from the app store instead. There was another benign issue, but I can’t remember what it was. The web browser problem was the main one. Then for installing graphical drivers, if you have an ATI card I think you’re already pretty golden. With NVidia, you’ll need to download and install the driver using NVidia’s provided installer or add some PPA package repository. You can probably follow a tutorial like this one. As for steam, you can probably download and install it like any other package. I’d install Synaptic package manager to easily manage package installation, removal, etc. Yeah, this one is a bit more of a hassle, but the desktop experience LARGELY makes up for it. I really fell in love with this one.
Yay for the first post!
I cannot comment on the topic but I’m wondering if you would get more insights from the folks in the !linux@lemmy.ml community. Maybe wanna crosspost?
If the distro supports apparmor, then firejail + apparmor offer together sandboxing for quite a set of applications (apparmor includes few profiles by itself, but firejal has quite a few, and one can enable apparmor on all, or the ones wnated). Arch has pretty good wikies about firejail + apparmor.
Found one you have, I would say, mmmm?
