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So basically theyre doing the “europeans arent racist” thing. A few steps more and you can justify imperalism and then ethnic cleansing. Of course this is an exaggeration but you get the point.

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From school uniform to ethnic cleansing, that is one helluva connection.

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The Nazi also did ate bread and potato.

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…a lot of countries have school uniforms, but sure see it that way.

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Most countries do it to create discipline(still think its a flawed method). Using it as a tool to create equality is strange because it makes people equal by making them the same. If you erase everyone whos not like you technically that creates equality.

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How about actually tackling inequality instead of trying to hide it?

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Education is, unironically, the best tool to combat inequality, but the effect only kicks in after the students have finished school.

In the meantime, uniforms cut down on bullying. What else do you want them to do? They don’t have a magic wand, nor do they have magic money to hand out to struggling parents.

Edit: unironically some of the dumbest takes I’ve ever read on the internet in this thread.

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That’s not even true. Children can differentiate between the cheap and expensive uniforms

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Aren’t they provided by the school? Or can you have a super high class tailor make you a uniform? I have no idea about school uniforms.

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uniforms cut down on bullying

[citation needed]

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You won’t read it, but here you go anyway

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8386814/

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Maybe instead of throwing money for uniforms it could be used to hire teachers, repair the building, or buy furnitures? Just a couple of ideas you know…

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You’re missing the point. None of those things would help poor kids not appear poor and get bullied.

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Pretty sure they do those things already. No mention of those things being lacking in the article.

Amazing that some random guy on the internet thinks he knows better than an accredited and experienced headmaster.

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Do the whole pay for the uniforms? Here in Australia parents do, and it’s ridiculously expensive.

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In the meantime, uniforms cut down on bullying.

Do they? I don’t think so, people are just gonna get bullied with different “reasons”, it’s not really about the clothes after all.

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I never saw someone got bullied for their clothes in my environment.

But kids got bullied for wearing glasses, let’s hope they ban those then. Also, better to not let kids with weird accents in school. Wouldn’t want to provoke the bullies.

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There is enough magic money to distribute if France (and every other country) would tax the rich.

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France already taxes the riches quite a bit.

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What else do you want them to do?

How about working with troubled kids to address the underlying issues?

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You think schools don’t have councillors? What do you think these “underlying issues” that contribute to inequality are?

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I’ve noticed that people on Lemmy aren’t happy with incremental change for the better. It always has to be a magic solution that solves everything. It’s pretty silly but also understandable considering the demographics of Lemmy.

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Nah they like fancy clothes better, they know it will work. In the meantime, they will also cut 8000 jobs from education too.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


But uniforms have made a return to one town as part of a government pilot scheme to establish if they can reduce inequality – and improve behaviour.

In the Brittany village of Plouisy, the mayor from Emmanuel Macron’s Renaissance party signed up for the experiment but pulled out after complaints from angry parents.

Uniforms were first introduced in secondary schools in France by Napoleon Bonaparte in 1802, who wanted to instil more military-style discipline in the education system, and were modelled on army outfits.

They have not been compulsory in state schools in mainland France since 1968, seen as a watershed moment in French society because of the civil unrest that dominated the spring.

In 2016 the rightwing presidential candidate François Fillon and the far-right leader Marine Le Pen included the imposition of school uniforms in their election manifesto.

Parents are divided about the utility of introducing uniforms: some have suggested it will lead to more apparent equality while others have pointed out that inequalities can be still expressed in such items as shoes, scarves, mobile phones and backpacks.


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I hated wearing uniforms in school, but as an adult idk it wasn’t that bad so long as they’re unisex and modern. I still hate wearing business casual but I did never get picked on for dressing poorly

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Getting picked on for dressing poorly is definitely what school uniform is trying to tackle.

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There are ways to pick on kids for being poor even in school uniform. Trousers too short cause the kid grew and parents couldnt afford new trousers? Picked on. Not wearing the latest brand name shoes with your uniform? Picked on. White shirts starting to look a little grubby cause its just been washed too often? Picked on. Backpack not the latest in kids fashion world? Picked on.

We were little shits at school and could always find a way to bully the poor kid even with school uniforms.

School uniforms are an extra financial burden on those who are already poor and more often than not have to be purchased through a specific supplier. If your tie was off brand from the supplier and slightly cheaper it might be the wrong shade instead. I saw teachers send poor kids home for having the wrong shade of blue on their jumper or tie cause their parents tried to buy a cheaper option.

I just do not see this as a solution and it also gives members of staff a way to bully poor kids too.

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Thanks for mentioning the teacher-point. In many cases it’s really a teacher who starts or legitimizes the bullying by treating a child badly.

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Which shows that they really don’t understand bullying and are looking for an easy way out. Bullies will now just pick another “excuse” to harass other kids. If you want to have less bullying you have to tackle why bullies do so in the first place. And that’s personal problems of the bullies them self and not external factors.

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Except it is about financial pressure ok kids and their parents. You don’t have to buy a new jersey or worry your fake will be noticed. You can’t wear it. Whatever they pick on next doesn’t mean they shouldn’t resolve this situation.

Drink driving kills people, so does speeding. Addressing one is not a sign of not understanding the other.

It is a response to rising inequality. The inequality still needs to be addressed.

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