Each bar is wrapped in cellophane, which are then wrapped in the normal outer packaging. To make the 4 pack, they simply took 2x two packs and put them on a cardboard tray,and then wrapped those.

I don’t think I’ve ever gone through so much unwrapping for candy.

9 points

Whenever I’m hating myself for my single use weaknesses, I picture a nurse doing one blood test or bandage… In every room… In every hospital… Everywhere… and that’s just healthcare which we give a pass for obvious reasons. If you want to project your self-hate onto others instead of using the exercise to chill out and be kind to yourself, you can even think of other industries like how much shit is coming out of some gun or Budweiser factory somewhere 🤷

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Just eat it! What a waste! I mean, the stuff inside isn’t much better to be honest.

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Shut your whore mouth hazelnut and wafer are fucking awesome.

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Hazelnut is a flavour I forget I love until I randomly try it again and then I’m in love.

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It also has alot of palm-oil in it so it is another reason to avoid it.

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And it’s not vegan, and it’s not made from fair cocoa, so two more reasons

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It’s milk chocolate (coated at least)… I’ve tried alternatives and frankly white, dark and flavoured vegan chocolates are good enough but there’s nothing close to or as good as milk chocolate so at this point it’s like saying “boycott steak because it’s not vegan”… It’s a fact, sure, but not a reason against it for people who aren’t already vegan, and vegans are already boycotting it away, so it’s a reason for nobody?

That said the fair cocoa point is very valid.

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Fuck palm oil and any product using it, just like fuck nestle in general.

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*Ferrero

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I know. Nestle is just kinda the leader of the pack of must get fucked into a black hole and is probably what all these distopiacorps aspire to be

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Even WWF doesn’t think avoiding palm oil is a good solution. Not short term and definitely not long term

https://wwf.panda.org/discover/our_focus/food_practice/sustainable_production/palm_oil/

Palm is the most efficient crop for producing a wide range of fats. Replacing it with some other source of fat will require more land and water, and disrupt nature in another part of the world.

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Thank you for the very informative link.

Did not know that.

I always try to avoid it but thanks to this list i at least know which company to trust about it a bit. Scorecard

Still wont buy anything from danone, mars or nestle tho.

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I think it’s fair to say those brands will source from the cheapest, scummiest places and it doesn’t matter what “certificate” sticker is on the box.

But it is so hard to avoid them where I live :/ Even the fairtrade, vegan and responsible green washed products are from those 3…

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Avoiding Nestlé is a good idea anyway. Fuck Nestlé.

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I’m curious how much plastic it actually is, if you say, melted it into a bead. It’s hard to tell just by looking at a bunch of torn-up wrappers.

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According to this it takes about 50 tons of PE granules to make about 40 Kilometers of clingfilm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVYpmXRHu00

Moar plastic manufacturing. Thickness of 2/10,000 of an inch. Plastic is crazy cheap and efficient compared to other methods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp2RDu9fw6o

Plastic bags. Full roll is 348 lbs which makes 35,000 bags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KznKNiXPFxM

If you’re wondering about crude to plastic efficiency…

It takes about 0.4 gallons of crude oil to make one pound of plastic, which means that 11 million metric tons of plastic equates to approximately 9.7 trillion gallons of oil.

https://oceanconservancy.org/blog/2021/09/24/plastic-pollution-oil-spill/

A nice copout answer from the US Government lol.

The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) is unable to determine the specific amounts or origin of the feedstocks that are actually used to manufacture plastics in the United States.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=34&t=6

This oil website even busts their chops on it lol.

This fact itself raises questions such as, “How many barrels of oil go into plastic packaging?” A question that is quite difficult to answer. The Energy Information Administration absolutely refuses to answer it, saying that it collects no data in this segment. Yet data from a few years ago, when the EIA still collected information about this, shows that in 2010 some 191 million barrels of LPG and NGL were used for the production of plastics along with 412 billion cu ft of natural gas. The liquids amount constituted about 2.7 percent of the country’s total petroleum consumption. Most of the natural gas used in plastics production was used as a fuel rather than feedstock.

Plastics production accounts for about 4 percent of global oil production. That’s according to figures for 2012, so now it may well be higher.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/How-Much-Crude-Oil-Does-Plastic-Production-Really-Consume.html

Some interesting glass to plastic energy efficiency info, not discounting their completely different use cases.

The total energy required to produce, package, and transport a 16 oz. PET container is 32 MJ compared to 34 MJ for a 16 oz. glass container – virtually the same. Producing a pound of plastic resin, however, uses nearly nine times the energy of producing a pound of glass. These comparisons assume the use of virgin glass.

https://ecologycenter.org/plastics/ptf/report1/

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Interesting, but none of these actually answered my question.

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Do the math yourself. The answer is there lol.

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://www.piped.video/watch?v=LVYpmXRHu00

https://www.piped.video/watch?v=Pp2RDu9fw6o

https://www.piped.video/watch?v=KznKNiXPFxM

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Only the individual bar wrappings were the standard clear plastic (stronger and more rigid than cling film), the two and four pack wrappers were the folk-like wrappers that you would see on Kit-Kats and the like.

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I can tell you for certain it’s more than two packs of Twix. A lot more.

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Do you want a quality product or mush?

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A single wrapper and the cardboard tray would suffice. You probably don’t even need the tray TBH. I don’t think I’ve ever gotten broken Twix bars, and I eat them all the time.

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They just need a single foil wrapping to preserve the humidity on the wafer, not a matrioska of wrappings

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