PornHub owner MindGeek is threatening a kebab shop in NYC with trademark infringement::If you’ve been listening to the Vergecast you know the standard for trademark infringement is “likelihood of confusion,” and while it’s true the Hub is known for ⚫️🟠, something tells me the folks walking into Doner Haus aren’t confused about what’s on the menu. Full story in Chelsea News, a hyperlocal NYC news site, via Verge pal Alexandra Roberts.

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Trademark’s a weird one, if you don’t defend it you lose it. So it’s kind of a lose-lose situation from the trademarkers position. They have to pursue or they lose their trademark which they value

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Idk the combination of the white text followed by black text within an orange rounded rectangle logo when paired with tag lines like ‘get stuffed’ might lead people to think it’s a subsidiary or something similar.

A place known for it’s sausages and a restaurant may seem like a strange business partnership but stranger things have happened.

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Yeah but if you don’t sue, a legitimate infringer in the future might use not enforcing on the trademark there to argue there own case. Trademark law really doesn’t leave trademark holders in a good position. Though I imagine that a lawsuit when those laws were written weren’t nearly as prohibitively expensive.

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Pretty sure it would have to be determined in a court of law that an infringement occurred in the first place.

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I mean, if they don’t care about the actual usage, they could licence it for a buck or something

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As a non-American, US intellectual property law feels absolutely ridiculous to me sometimes. It feels like it incentivizes all the wrong behaviours.

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It’s hard to balance but it prevents trademark squatters from existing like in the domain name space

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As a US Citizen I agree. We also let corporations lobby to make the rules have no relation to what they were set up for.

Copyright for instance was supposed to allow people to use novel work in the open without getting copied for a short period of time before it became public domain. Now Copyright is nearly perpetual, it keeps getting extended when a certain mouse is close to losing their copyright.

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They think this is bad, there’s a seafood van near my local pub called “Prawn Hub” with the same logo design.

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We have a butcher near us called Pork Hub also with the same logo

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Cars around me all seem to be sporting bream hub bumper stickers

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And we’ve got a nearby car dealership called CarHub with the same logo design as well. Doesn’t even sound close though.

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😂 I get why PornHub needs to defend it’s TM, but that is hilarious and if I owned PornHub I would consider that free advertising.

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I’m not defending PornHub hear, but sometimes you don’t want to leave associatable stuff up simply because you font know if they might do something stupid and harm their brand. Like if it turned out heavy sexual harassment/assault was happening at PrawnHub and it gets found out; now people might associate that with PornHub, especially with the sexual aspect.

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Yep, there is a vendor that shows up to farmers’ markets here called “CornHub” with the same design.

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German döner are actually Turkish. Germany has a massive Turkish population. It’s so large they have areas in some cities that are primarily Turkish. Even the Turkish president broadcasts to the German Turkish community at times as he knows how influential they are.

All this to say, a German döner is a Turkish one, albeit probably adjusted to German tastes.

Have I had one? Yes, many. Are they good? Definitely.

However, I like the Australian variety just as much, but they are definitely same same different.

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That is only partly true. The Döner Kebab was invented in Berlin (by a guy with Turkish origen). Due to the high Turkish population in Germany there are tons of Döner Shops and it is actually much easier to find a Döner in Germany than in Turkey.

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It is also where the best Döner is found. The Picture of this NYC Kebab did not make me want to get one. Looked way too thin and i dont get the packaging. I want my Kebab to be rolled into alumium foil and it needs to have sexy curves because of how stuffed the Döner is.

Excuse me, i have go get one right now.

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Excellent. Thanks for the extra info.

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Likely wont be forced to change.

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My guess is that this is going to go the same way as McDonalds v everything with the letters M(a)c, and Starbucks v Sattar Buksh

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I read way too much of that article

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“Restaurant selling badly-packed-kebabs, is sued by content host showing videos of badly-packed-kebabs” The irony…

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You forgot to include “stepsister” in the description.

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