‘Is money a birthright now?’
If it’s not, then logically a 100% inheritance tax must be imposed. After all, nobody is entitled to money just for being born, right?
In that case, I would burn all my money rather than pay it in taxes before I died. Just put every single penny you have into Bitcoin or something and then purposely delete the private keys.
Because I don’t really know of any charities that I would support, but I could support some sort of open source software, I guess, like donate everything to fdroid, or something.
In the long run, nearly the same effect as 100% inheritance tax anyways.
The government won’t know the cash has been removed from the economy, but it’ll have been removed all the same.
Not really because I sure as hell wouldn’t be paying it to the government.
money isn’t a birthright, but food, water, shelter, clothes, and healthcare are. if we can’t be given those, we should at least be given the money to get them
Republicans don’t think those are birthrights either, because they don’t care about anyone after they’ve been born. They wouldn’t care about foetuses either if they had to be fed and housed.
Sure, but then republicans are well into the territory of “I don’t like the facts”. They need to be told to work on trying to un-sign the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (from 1948?) before they can make what they consider “progress” in their minds.
from the article:
“I never thought we would be going down the socialist road,” Gillette told BI. “I spent 35 years in the Army fighting communism, fighting terrorism. Now we’re slipping. The left is pushing us toward the socialist program.”
LOL… I read that as: “help! We’re slipping past the 1940s because of the commies and socialists!”
I would love to see this backfire. If they ban min. incomes whilst being a human rights signatory, it means the state must buy food, shelter, and clothes, which means that portion of commerce would be outside of their “capitalist utopia” as the state would decide where to buy Bob’s shoes, or perhaps even make Bob a pair of shoes. It can (and should) backfire spectacularly for them.
You say this like they have any decency or shame. They will continue to talk out of one side of their mouths about being a party of the common man while letting people who can’t “afford to live” continue to die quietly in the gutters.
You say this like they have any decency or shame.
I”m not sure how you arrive at that. You seem to have missed my point. That is, if the republicans get what they want (a ban on min incomes), they could end up getting as a consequence something they want even less: the state getting involved in commerce in the course of upholding human rights legal obligations.
It makes little sense because they know full well the money will spent one way or another. So most likely this is a political tactic for something else. If there is a segment of unmotivated R voters somewhere but a strong likelihood that they would be more motivated to the polls if there were a proposition to ban any form of welfare, getting a proposition on the ballot would actually just be a trick to get more people turning out for Trump (because they will tick the Trump box while they are there).
What matters to republicans the most is not any kind of values or ideology; it’s simply nothing more than taking and holding power.
IIRC it was the Bush election where the republicans put a proposition on the ballot for gay marriage. Superficially you would think “sure, the republicans want to stop gay marriage”. But in reality the republican politicians did not care about gay marriage at all. They cared about a segment of elderly non-voting christian right conservatives. Those voters could not be motivated to get off their asses and travel to the polls to vote for Bush, but they would be damned if gays could get married, so they were highly motivated to vote in that election and of course while they are in the voting booth they ticked the Bush box. The gay marriage proposition was just a trick to get more votes for candidates.
The local govs taking direct action. The state gov may be controlled by human rights hostile republicans at the state level, but there are many smaller governments within the state controlled by liberals.
And to be clear, the use of “state” in your quote was the generic sense of the word.
I don’t care what the science says! I don’t care about the suffering of others! This offends my capitalist sensibilities that I have never questioned and I’m not about to start thinking too hard about it now just because some hippy libs want to sneak communism in the back door!
I have zero respect for this world view and hope we are able to simply bulldoze it with unstoppable momentum.
Nicely put. I just cannot tell if that is how you feel or your just channeling.
For me, I am divided. On one hand people do nothing unless motivated and needing basic necessities is a powerful motivator. On the other, I am curious as to the most cost effective approach. Plus I would much rather spend money on people getting along then police and armies.
Edit: Just thinking, maybe call me a libertarian socialist. Maybe that is why I am always confused.
people do nothing unless motivated
this is an assumption worth challenging. the evidence suggests, in fact, that people are almost always doing things!
It is an interesting question. That is, the question if what motivates people to be productive. I think it varies widely.
I’m expecting Republicans to propose opening debtors prisons where you have to work for free to pay off debts.
This is why I’m so disgusted every time someone says “republicans and democrats are basically the same”, which I most often hear from Europeans.
