6 points

Yall miss the point. Im guessing willfully. No average desktop user wants to be forced to use command line to do anything.

Linux will never see mainstream desktop usage.

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Enough with the fan wars. Let’s be perfectly honest for once. Windows, Linux, MacOS - they all suck. Sometimes in similar ways, sometimes in different ways. But they all suck.

Windows users - I get you, you use it because it sorta works 40%, of the time and sucks in the way you understand.

Linux users - I get you, you know all of the arcane incantations you need to quickly install, update, and troubleshoot your os in a terminal window. It works - once you apply your custom bash script that applies every change you need to get everything exactly how you like it. But again, it sucks in the way you understand.

MacOS users - well I don’t really get you. You know what you’ve done.

We deserve better than this, guys. We deserve an os that just works, is easy to use, easy to configure, doesn’t require an IT degree to use, and that we can recommend to our grandma without a second thought.

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More important IMO is the fact that Linux re-detects hardware on every boot! Try moving a Windows hard drive to completely new hardware and getting it to boot. Not a chance…

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That actually works fine since like XP

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It must have stopped with Win11. Tried to upgrade one of my family members Laptop. Took the ssd from the old one, put it in the new Laptop and only got to the Windows rescue Window. With Linux. I can setup an ssd with my laptop and when setup, plug it into my headless server and everything works fine.

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TPM is integrated on the motherboard of the old computer so that would never work without foregoing the extra safety.

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Yup. though for GPU drivers you’ll need to cleanly reinstall them if you downloaded them separately from windows update (which is a requirement for most gaming GPU users)

At least on linux its [insert distro command here] and it’ll have your new drivers up and running for you without bloatware

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True, GPU drivers are a mess

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Well, more like 7 onwards. XP was quite hit and miss unless you did a load of prep first.

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Until it marks you as unlicensed because you used a new motherboard.

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Still runs, albeit with a your are bad symbol…

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1 point

Which is easy to solve

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41 points

I’ve done that multiple times without issue.

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The windows boot drive? Dont think thats possible anymore. If its completely new hardware.

Im not sure what the trigger is but if enough hardware has changed it wont boot.

I had to install windows fresh on a new hard drive when i bought a new pc last year.

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Were you using BitLocker? You need to disable that before moving the drive.

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If the partitioning is fine (GPT with EFI System Partition), it should boot up even if you move the disk to a completely new machine. You will need to re-activate Windows though after booting.

You may have had the ESP on a different drive than the one you moved to the new machine, perhaps?

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I did just that just yesterday/today. Built a new PC from scratch, added the SSD with Windows from the old PC, booted up, and it worked just fine. I didn’t even need to reinstall the graphics driver.

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Oh, another Linux circlejerk. Man I like my Debian but this stuff is so obnoxious…

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I like Linux a lot, but saying you can’t understand why someone would run Windows on a server just shows a lack of knowledge. Linux is great in a lot of server applications in the application realm. However, it doesn’t get close to the power of Active Directory and Group Policy for Windows device management. Besides that, a lot of people are more comfortable with a UI for managing DHCP, DNA, etc in a SMB environment. Even if they prefer a command line for those tools PowerShell allows those people to coexist with those that prefer a GUI. Under certain circumstances, (mainly ones where a business is forgoing AD for AAD), Linux can be the right choice. Pretending that there’s no place for Windows Server, though, is asinine.

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Have you used windows before? It’s flaming garbage. Been using various oses for decades and I still rediscover how shitty windows is on the regular.

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Yeah, and Linux still doesn’t have a good answer to AD for managing suites of end user machines. Linux has a lot going for it - but windows isn’t strictly inferior or anything.

Honestly, the entire AD suite with auth and everything else built in is genuinely a good product. And if what you want is supported by Microsoft, their other services are decent as well.

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freeipa is pretty good, although i agree that it’s easier to just use AD

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This community is very much a “Windows bad” community. I personally find that annoying as I use Windows and Linux. Both have their pros and cons. Windows though is seen here as the shitest OS out there which far from the truth.

PowerShell is amazing and I install it on my Linux desktop.

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We use both. Its not my department but i know the server guys are using windows for some servers and linux for others and the decision is normally made based on which is going to be best for the specific needs of the function of that server.

Pretending one is outright better than the other is childish. Just use whats best at the time.

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The main problem are companies forcing windows servers and technologies when they are not the good ones for the task.

If one needs to set up desktops for accounting, windows is fine. But I saw companies setting shared NFS drives used by Linux severs on windows machines! Not joking!

I know companies that even deploy kubernetes clusters on windows servers!

Just because finding cheap windows engineers is easy, everyone has had an experience on windows to put on a cv. Than some of that cheap labor go up the hierarchy as head of a random infrastructure team because all good sys engineers moved to manage linux servers after some time, he recruits people like-minded, and in few years you ends up with a team refusing to do the right thing because “we know windows and windows can do the same as Linux and Microsoft is good for governance and Linux bad”. Execs don’t understand the difference and force architecture to go along because they don’t believe it’s worthy to rebuild a team, we are anyway using windows for accounting and execs laptops, it can’t be that bad! Even accenture and mckinsey consultants us it! And they told us that wls2 is the holy grail

Corporate IT is the peak of suboptimal tools for the job because politics and money

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