12 Years ago I had a Sony Vaio. I quite liked it. Then in my next job, 2017 or so, I went for a Toshiba Portege, and absolutely loved it.

Guess what the above two have in common? Yup, they stopped making laptops for the professional market. So now I’m a bit at a loss. Any recommendations?

Requirements:

  • Lightweight and easy to carry around.
  • 13-15" display, preferably
  • Decent battery life
  • It absolutely must have an RJ45
  • Works well with linux
  • Good keyboard quality
  • ISO keyboard availability
  • Touchpad. Bonus points if it has the touchpad buttons ABOVE the pad itself.
67 points

Lenovo seems to be pretty solid but fuck… I still have a grudge over how much shittier they are than the old IBM ThinkPads.

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We have nothing but problems with the ThinkPads issued by my IT department. Multiple models. They’re not what they used to be.

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4 points

Same here, both E Series and L Series.

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Those are the shit ones. Only T, X, W are the proper ones.

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2 points

Newer ones flex a lot more.

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My last and current laptops were and are Lenovo. I definitely recommend

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Lenovo onboard power issues very common at my job. Toshiba was great way back when. Surface pro nifty but battery is crap. I hate to say it but dell makes ok laptops

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Look into the Framework 13. There are no touchpad buttons but otherwise it has everything you need and is fully upgradable and customizable. The laptop has four expansion ports that can hold a variety of hotpluggable expansion cards. The manufacturer offers USB-A, USB-C, HDMI, DisplayPort, 2.5G ethernet, microSD, audio and SSDs. There are also some community-made ones like LTE and dual USB-C.

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When I eventually need to upgrade I won’t even consider anything that isn’t repairable on a similar level. Hopefully they will be sticking around until then, but it’s looking good on that front right now

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Framework if you want to repair it yourself and Lenovo if you don’t. Lenovo makes a good machine and has very reasonably priced on-site support options.

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Is this a joke? Framework as a work laptop?

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Then what’s it for? Looking pretty?

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Hobbists and home devs I think.

Edit if anyone can link an example of a real sized business going with framework I’ll eat a delicious lunch very quickly so I become slightly uncomfortable

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I’m genuinely asking, bought prebuilt what would be the difference from a normal laptop?

Cause I could see lower longterm costs being a great benefit to a business, and if one part fails not losing 100% of your data, just let the IT guy replace that part

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Long term costs aren’t an issue, framework costs 2x as much as a comparable enterprise laptop.

With a warranty parts are replaced if needed by the vendor, the IT guy doesn’t need to do anything. They even come to your home.

Drivers are regular updated tested, verified, packaged together and deployed through a repository and management apps.

since many companies have the ability to switch vendors, costing a company like dell or Lenovo $100k+ per year by doing so, the vendors pay attention to issues.

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You’re getting downvoted, but the only way a business buys frameworks is if they’re running a pilot program. They are just not proven in that environment yet.

For a dev going to a coffee shop… sure. It’s your work laptop.

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Thinkpad T, W, X series.

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Also the P series (succesor of W). X series, just avoid the X1 Carbon.

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3 points

We found the carbon to be okay, but the fan ramped up to TOGA mode super fast.

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Bonus points for the aviation reference

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Why?

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Glued or soldered components, lots of issues as far as I’ve heard. You don’t find them refurbished (or rarely) which is a bad sign.

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