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If only he would try and find who is supplying them with the weapons.

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I’ll believe it when he actually does something about it. So far it’s just been talk and allegedly looking frustrated.

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I mean, that was certainly true a week ago, but they’ve definitely started doing something now. They’re dropping aid on Gaza, Harris is calling for a ceasefire, and they invited Benny Gantz, who will probably be Netanyahu’s next opponent for Prime Minister, to the White House. The aid drops are not sufficient, and the calls for a ceasefire have come far too late, but the Gantz thing is actually pretty great. Polls show Gantz would beat Netanyahu if there were an election today, and apparently this has seriously undermined him politically.

I’m very critical of Israel and the Democrats’ enablement of it’s genocide, and I have no illusions about the White House’s motives here; the only reason Biden’s doing anything is because he’s scared shitless by the 100K uncommitted voters in Michigan. But Biden isn’t just letting staffers leak that he called Netanyahu a, “bad fucking guy,” anymore, he’s taking actual action. You can argue that what he’s doing isn’t enough (God knows I think it’s not enough), but we should acknowledge and encourage positive changes, even if they’re small and insufficient.

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Promoting a political rival would be more substantial if that political rival actually differed in policy.

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He’s not just a political rival, he’s a war cabinet member who was brought to the White House and given a lecture on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. And again, if you don’t think these steps are good enough, fine, fair enough, I mostly agree with you. But he’s definitely, “doing something,” now and not just, “looking frustrated.”

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Article is paywalled.

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Here is an Archived Version.

Biden should never have said U.S. aid to Israel was unconditional. As the death toll of innocents from Israel’s operations in Gaza quickly grew intolerably high, the U.S. should have slammed on the brakes, publicly condemned (rather than defended) Israel’s actions, stopped military aid to Israel, demanded a ceasefire, supported efforts for a ceasefire in international institutions and begun aggressive aid measures for Gaza including sending a hospital ship and finding ways to deliver aid to Gaza via the sea.

Halfway measures like the sanctioning of West Bank settlers seem impotent. Dropping a few tens of thousands of meals to Gazans, given the scale of the crisis being faced, is little more than a gesture. It also put the U.S. in the position of supporting both sides in this war. That does not send the message that our approach is balanced. It makes it clear that it has been, best intentions aside, incoherent.

People who possess a modicum of decency or care about the people of Gaza or Israel or the region should hope the U.S. moves more quickly and decisively to a different policy – one that shows a policy guided more by wisdom, compassion, realism and genuine loyalty rather than one focused on superficial displays of misplaced support.

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Thank you

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That’s a weird action for the #1 genocide maker in the history of the world to make.

It’s almost like he isn’t perpetrating a genocide at all and it’s Israel and netanyahu calling those shots.

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The US has been supplying Israel with these weapons, knowing exactly what they are being used for, and defending Israel on the international stage by vetoing UN ceasefire resolutions repeatedly.

U.S. Aid to Israel in Four Charts

Full Monday Planned at UN with Focus on US Vetoes of Ceasefire, UNRWA 4th ceasefire veto

How the U.S. Can Rein In Israel

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Let’s say I supply you with a tall glass of shut the fuck up™, it it your call how you use it. Even if you use it to glass an infant sitting next to you, that’s your call to make.

Unless you’re saying Biden is the president of Israel?

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Even if you use it to glass an infant sitting next to you, that’s your call to make.

Erm, no, if you knowingly supplied glasses to a serial baby glasser you’d be arrested for the attacks.

Even if you weren’t, it’s generally accepted that continuing to hand over glasses as more and more infants get glassed would be an extremely fucked up thing to do.

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You get that in your scenario, you would be continuing to supply me with glasses, while I continue to glass infants, and express my intent to glass infants because they are human animals. While also defending my rights on the international stage to continue glassing infants with the glasses you provide, vetoing all resolutions to make me stop.

Law for Palestine Releases Database with 500+ Instances of Israeli Incitement to Genocide – Continuously Updated

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Whose weapons are they using? Would they be able to do their genocide without those weapons?

Also, are you dumb?

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Whose weapons are they using?

Their own, that’s how giving weapons to allies works.

If a kid shoots up a school who is held accountable?:

The person shooting

Or

The retailer/distributor of the weapon used

I’ll let you take your time figuring it out, there are a Ton of case studies thanks to the USA.

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Fun fact, they just convicted a parent of giving a kid a gun which was later used in a school shooting.

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In the analogy it’s a lot more similar to the parents who give the gun to the kid on the way to school while singing pumped up kicks

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How are you comparing an ongoing ethnic cleansing campaign to a school shooting? The actions of a state are not the same as the actions of an individual

Apartheid

Amnesty International Report

Human Rights Watch Report

B’TSelem Report with quick Explainer

Genocide

Year before Oct 7 - Jewish Voice for Peace

Application of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide in the Gaza Strip (South Africa v. Israel) and Summery by the International Court of Justice

AP News, Time, Reuters, Vox

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“oh no, don’t”, whispers biden from the sidelines

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