I blogged about what happened in June, and the financial overview.
The transparency is much appreciated! Thank you and the whole admin/moderation team for everything you are doing to make lemmy.world a success.
Where can one donate? I used to pay for Reddit premium to get rid of ads but I un subbed. I could def pitch in if there was a sub model somewhere.
If you go to to the front page and open the side bar there are links to both Patreon and Open Collective. They’re shared with Mastodon.world still, since they are run by the same person.
Appreciate your update and I’m glad to see more people donating.
I’ve been outspoken on my disinterest and resistance to Threads, but you and your team should not have been harrased like that…
That’s wrong regardless, but you guys have clearly been working your asses off to create this space for everyone, and people need to respect that you are doing this on your own free time for the benefit of others.
I feel I’ve leveled heavy criticism against federating with Threads, but this is something to be addressed with open discussion, not emotional reasoning and vitriol…
I see so many users acting like your team has already announced definitively to federate with Threads and that it’s implementation is immediately around the corner. That’s just not true… Instead of jumping to conclusions and throwing threats and tantrums, users should actually voice their concerns if they want them heard… That means arguing points, not threatening or insulting others…
I appreciate everything you guys have done and I’m sorry for how some in our community have acted. With that said, I still desperately hope that Threads is not federated with. But that’s a topic that should continue to be fleshed out within the community in a healthy manner.
Thank you. Nothing is decided yet, but because of moderation limitations on Lemmy and the fact people can’t block domains for their account, I would say chances are we would defederate as soon as they do federate with Lemmy. For Mastodon these 2 arguments aren’t valid so decision might be different.
Totally understandable. I thought the admin response post laid that all out very clearly. I think a lot of users probably only skimmed it/didn’t read it, or were too influenced by their emotional state to have a more objective interpretation.
I think a lot of the users here have such strong emotions because of coming here from reddit, and feeling like they’ve found a new home they like even better, but view the possibility of Threads federation as a threat to their new space.
When there’s strong emotions tied to something, it’s easy for people to lose rationality and slip into emotional reasoning instead of logical reasoning. That’s when a normally well-adjusted person will start insulting, threatening, acting irrationally. That is, if you subscribe to the person-brain model.
The scene in Bad Grampa with the penguin guy is a great example of someone who has lost rationality. He acts in bizarre ways that he otherwise never would have. You can see that he’s rational in how he first starts interacting with Knoxville, but his rationality is eroded as he becomes more upset by Knoxville’s responses.
This kind of response happens with simple discourse online all the time, and it’s so unhealthy… I think it’s just such an emotionally charged topic for some users that they pass their threshold for rationality very quickly.
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I think many users of reddit did not have a good opinion of Meta prior to any Reddit migration. And despite the dislike for Reddit now it is still a site where using it you know you are not going to be directly exposed to Meta or in direct partnership with them. At best it’s people reuploading Meta content but not direct access to Meta services. And I don’t think Meta is forcing Reddit to sign NDAs to talk to them either.
So Reddit for all its criticisms is still a Meta free place. So leaving Reddit then running into the hands of a partnered Meta instance can be an off putting prospect. If people had to choose between using a Meta affiliated instance or reddit I think many would prefer to go back to reddit.
I think people against it want more degrees of separation from Meta where separate accounts are needed to utilize their services. It’s not like there isn’t over a decade of Meta’s track record to look at or even more recent examples like theit app requirements and permissions to use threads that raises red flags and makes people not want to use them even if it is indirectly through a fediverse alternative.
Thank you as always, I really appreciate the breakdowns and transparency. Also thank you for reminding users that you’re all volunteers and actual people running this, I’ve seen a lot of awful entitlement recently and some really unpleasant posts
Yes well you’ll always have that. Luckily that’s greatly outnumbered by the positive feedback /comments.
Wow, you’re running lemmy.world, mastodon.world, and calckey.world for 1200 EUR/month? Thtat’s kind of incredible. Lemmy.world says you have about 28k MAU (I assume that’s posting/commenting, not just logged-in users?), and mastodon.world says 37k active users (is that daily, weekly, or monthly?) So, that’s 65k active users (out of 200k-300k accounts) at 1.8 cents/month each.
The costs of community owned social media are even less than I had pictured.
Well there’s about 5 to 10 people constantly working on these servers, so if they weren’t volunteers, it would be a lot more… But yeah overall it’s quite efficient so far.
Naturally, but that’s sort of the magic of community-run initiatives. People give because they want to contribute, because it’s about making something together, and not about being exploited.
It’s just amazing what people can do when the central goal isn’t for like 2 people to become billionaires at the end of the day.
Would you be able to give a further breakdown of the Lemmy associated costs?
I’m really curious to know what the current operational costs are for a Lemmy server. I was hoping to be able to do some very rough math to calculate monthly cost per user, but with these current numbers I have to include users from Mastodon and Calckey.
