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Yeah ok I’ll just fucking have my kids put down at the vet before I go on holiday! Get a fucking grip!

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Were you forced to have kids at gunpoint?

Logical solution to this is to wait until your kid grows up a little bit and stops crying for no fucking reason. You can still travel with your toddler if you really want to, but use your own car. I don’t get the reason to take a kid this young, to travel with you, since he’s not going to remember anything anyway

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People have families lol

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We all have families…

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I live in Norway. It’s my constitutional right to have 5 weeks of paid holiday a year (excluding public holidays) whether or not I have children. Driving isn’t viable as it would take several days just to get to a ferry that leaves Norway. Crying children are a part of flying, get used to it.

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You can have holidays in the same country that you live you know… Since you have a small child, it would be best to take care of him, instead of flying around in planes

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Doesn’t mean you have to fly somewhere for a simple holiday.

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Are you forced to take a plane at gunpoint?

Logical solution to this is to use your own means of transportation in order to be sure to be alone if you don’t like children. You can still take a plane if you really want to, but use your own plane. I don’t get the reason to take public means of transportation, since there will always be other people in them anyway.

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Oh right I’ll just take one of my many planes that I have just fucking lying around

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Lol, allright let me just sit with my fucking toddler right next to you in a 6 hour flight. I coud’ve just waiter two years until he’s old enough to not cry at random shit to take him to Spain, but fuck ya’ll. I’m not locked in here with you, you’re locked in here with me and my toddler

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Yes I’ll just load my kids up into the car and drive across the fucking ocean to see my family.

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That would solve a lot of problems… You should get on that.

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It won’t kill you to not go to Norway for a couple of years

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Because, as we all know, the only way of travelling across the ocean is by plane.

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don’t go on holiday if you have cum pets. You chose that when you couldn’t keep it in your pants.

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You think you’re more deserving of a holiday just because you’re shooting blanks?

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i stay quiet and read my book and don’t annoy the entire plane/train/bus.

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You do realize you don’t have to take a plane to go on vacation, right? It won’t kill you to not take a plane for a couple of years

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One kind of people makes humanity not go extinct in the near future.

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Eh, I’m mortal anyway. I don’t benefit from other people’s annoying offspring being around after I’m gone.

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humans are an overpopulated and invasive species, there are millions of human children waiting to be fostered

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cum pets

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Just because you’re so ugly nobody would ever reproduce with you doesn’t give you excuse to whine about children all the time. Go back to r/childfree you soulless redditor.

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14 points

Honestly? You should.

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They should put soulless freaks like you down. Having empathy for literal babies is a basic requirement for a human being.

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6 points

Thanks, Satan!

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yah please do no one wants your little shits around.

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The only people I’m not happy to see are insufferable r/childfree redditors who hate on literal children. If you hate babies there is something wrong with your brain.

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Well good, I accepted that long before I ever had kids!

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7 points

Right?

I just fly Delta cause parents can’t afford it 🤷 Problem solved.

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I miss Delta. I always flew Delta, but my wife likes to be frugal.

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10 points

Seems that everyone forgets they were kids once . I mean, we were not born adults and intolerant, right?..

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One of the best things about moving here from the bad place was how their senseless, rabid hatred of young people didn’t carry over. It’s heartbreaking to see sentiments like this starting to spread.

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Come on. It’s not that bad. Plus “maybe don’t take babies on plane trips” doesn’t equal “kill all babies” or “fuck Dem kids”. There are many subtle levels.

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I definitely recommend revisiting this post about 12 hrs later. It’s kind of wild in here. Saw a comment with 19 upvotes referring to children as “cum pets.”

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I don’t think I could bear it. Activism for the rights and freedoms of young people has been such a big part of my life for such a long time that that kind of anti-child attitude burns my soul.

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That’s irrelevant. Yes, we were all kids once. That doesn’t make children any less annoying to travel with.

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I used to think that way until I had my own baby. I understand the parents a lot more now. We don’t bring our babies in flights/places to annoy anyone (some parents might do it, Idk :v). It’s a complicated situation where we want to stay with our loved ones and at the same time don’t be yelled by strangers who can’t handle baby noises, trust us, we try to calm them down, if we could, babies wouldn’t annoy so much, but they kinda have a mind of it’s own 🙂 (stubbornness at its peak) I don’t expect anything to change, specially in the terms lf having patience with strangers, but… idk :v

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just stay home then

you chose to have children, in this day and age where all they’ll ever know is suffering and pain

so don’t make everyone else’s life worse because you just had to creampie someone.

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I think perhaps you misunderstand. Most people don’t think parents bring their kids along to deliberately disrupt travel. At least, I certainly hope that’s not what people think.

But, intent is irrelevant. It doesn’t stop it being annoying for some/many people.

As for the picture here. I suspect the reason more people are looking this way than usual. It looks to be a business class cabin. I know many people book business class because it more likely puts you at some distance from the noisier cabins. This looks like they probably have a dedicated business class boarding door. So they likely realise they’re coming to sit in the same cabin.

If you book in economy, you’re used to and expect it more, I think.

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here’s a solution:

don’t take planes for a few years until the child doesn’t cry for no reason anymore

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And you think you didn’t annoy the fuck out of your own parents when you were one?

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That’s irrelevant. Yes, we were all kids once. That doesn’t make children any less annoying to travel with. Source: RealEarthHuman

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Huh? Maybe you should reread my comment

Edit: I love it when people just downvote without providing context

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yes but they chose to have children

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5 points

Not anymore in some states.

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Except people don’t hate the babies for screaming on the plane. They blame the parents for bringing them on the plane.

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9 points

Tbh, I don’t have a single memory from when I was an infant.

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8 points

Most babies are born crying and yelling for a manager, they’re just bad at forming sentences.

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That’s so true lol

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Is it a Sync problem or a Lemmy problem that comments seem to be in wrong threads? 🤔

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4 points

Fine in Jerboa.

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6 points

I was never a kid on a plane, because I don’t have bad parents.

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I’m sorry your family was too broke to ever leave whatever shithole you come from. If your parents were good at your job you wouldn’t be threatening to hurt children.

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In this picture:

1 cute baby

1 caring parent taking his kids on a trip

And a bunch of entitled douchenoozles, not understanding that THEY used to be screaming babies too!

Edit: The replies to this are wild lol this platform really is just single dudes circle jerking. If you really have no compassion for the parent in this picture, you need to take a deep look at yourself.

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I’m not a screaming infant anymore. And I chose not to reproduce because I didn’t want to deal with screaming children. Not wanting to listen to someone else’s screaming/crying children in an enclosed space you can’t get away from them in isn’t being a douche its expecting common courtesy and a pleasant experience everyone has pain potentially a lot of money for.

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Why isn’t this infant baby showing common courtesy? My God does this infant have no shame?

Fucking lol

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Don’t be stupid. It’s on the parents not the infant. Nobody cares if the infant cries some, or if they do they aren’t worth talking to. The point is if you know you can’t control your child or have no way to handle them on a plane, you have no business bringing them and you should’ve driven. Simple as that.

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Tbh taking your baby on a trip is a giant waste of money. They aren’t going to enjoy/remember it. And if you bring them on a plane they will have no clue what’s going on, be stressed, and annoy everyone else

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Exactly! All these parents and self absorbed people trying to come after me for my comment because they think they should be catered to or bent over backwards for because they popped out a kid is laughable. It’s not a good experience for the kid and it’s not a good experience for other passengers who had no input on the kid being there.

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people travel for reasons other than just taking holidays too…

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Why are all of you assuming people are going on vacation? People travel for all sorts of reasons.

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You used to be a child once, so you aren’t allowed to be frustrated at any behaviours of children or choices of their caregivers” sure is a perspective.

Yes, I was once a child. And if my parents had taken me on a flight before I was sufficiently mature not to yell during it, they would have been being irresponsible and selfish. “Babies scream, sometimes there’s nothing you can do to stop them” is true, but doesn’t imply that you should be allowed to take them anywhere.

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What about ugly people or people with body odour? Do we not allow them to travel on planes, too? I can easily block noise with earplugs. Can’t really plug my nose or keep my eyes closed all the time.

Why is everyone else responsible for your comfort? Wanting all families banned from airtravel just because wearing earplugs is asking too much is in my opinion a lot more selfish than bringing a child onto a plane.

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What about ugly people or people with body odour?

They get called out all the time.

Remember the story of Andre the Giant that took a shit on a plane and they had to make an emergency stop?

They should do the same when a baby starts to cry.

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Neither of those things you described are intentional life-choices that people have planned, so no, it is not the same thing at all.

Why is everyone else responsible for your comfort?

This is a circular argument I’ve seen a lot of times on this thread (from several people), so I’m going to respond to it just once and then stop engaging here because this whole thread is not convincing anyone. Both sides of this issue believe that that argument supports them:

  • Pro-babies think “other passengers should just bring earplugs, I don’t have to be responsible for their comfort” (let’s leave aside for a moment the question of whether earplugs are actually fully effective against screaming children (they’re not) and give this view the benefit of the doubt)
  • Anti-babies think “just don’t bring the baby on the plane. The whole rest of the plane shouldn’t have to adapt to your choices

The thing is, one of these groups of people is knowingly introducing a factor that will cause distress to hundreds of people and is saying “fuck all of you if you aren’t prepared to adapt to my choices”, and the other group is saying…“please don’t do that”. The latter feels way more reasonable to me.

The key point here seems to be that air travel is considered to be a fundamental inalienable right, something which should not and cannot be denied. Parents are saying things like “well without air travel, how are we supposed to go on holiday”, to which the answer is…maybe you’re not (or you go by car/boat) until the baby’s a real human? Maybe that was something you should have thought about before you had a child? Maybe, just maybe, it should be the cultural and social norm that a choice that you made does not permit you to inflict the negative outcomes of that choice on a tube of strangers?

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Ugh, forget it. The majority here are young people, mostly men, without any experience with children.

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I’ve had plenty of experience with children crying on planes.

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Well, what would you expect from someone who says they “own” children?

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It’s a joke…

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I’m gonna be unapologetically that person one day. Get into a tube full of stinky humans and complain that babies exist in the world. People need to get over themselves.

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Especially now that Noise Cancelling headphones are everywhere and work as good as they do. Since I’ve got my Sony headphones a crying infant becomes only a really minor inconvenience

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While this reads like a Sony advert, I have to agree.

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Children don’t only make noise. So noise canceling headphones only handle one possibility of the outcomes.

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Tbf I don’t think babies are the worst. They cry, but that’s it. The kids that can talk walk and kick you are. And also let’s always remember that the major anger is not about the kids but the lazy parents that think everyone else should suffer so that THEY don’t have to deal with it.

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Well, someone not watching their kid while the kid harasses or kicks you is a different story.

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99% of the time that’s the case

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ANC headphones don’t work against shrieking cum pets.

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Or maybe people shouldn’t bring toddlers on a plane. You don’t need a plane to have a perfectly fine vacation.

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your second sentence is a solution for you too

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As if that’s a good reason to make a flight completely miserable

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Agreed. I don’t have kids and I feel that it’s my responsibility to bring earplugs and headphones if I want a quiet flight.

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