(Picture alt text: a screenshot of my phone’s call log, with numbers redacted (just in case). The phone numbers (except for one) are all spam calls)

I’m not sure if this is the correct place for this, but I am at my limit with these.

Constantly throughout the day I get spam call after spam call. I constantly report them to Google (I’ve got a Pixel 5, if it matters), yet nothing changes. This has been happening for months.

These calls will also leave the exact same, completely silent, 4-second voicemails. I will block and report spam, but you know how it is. There’s no way to turn voice mail notifications off, and I wouldn’t necessarily want to, because I know I’d miss something genuine or important.

What do I do? Is there anything I can do, beyond changing numbers? Even then, I’m sure a new number would exist in some database somewhere and be victim to more spam calls. This is heinous.

Thanks for reading. I’m just so frustrated.

Edit: this got a lot more attention than I anticipated. I appreciate the suggestions for different spam blockers and settings! It’s also nice knowing I’m not alone. Hopefully, at least in the US, we’ll get some real legislation eventually that will kill these spam calls once and for all.

99 points

The issue is lots of countries (including America) let scammers spoof a real life number.

So you get a spam call from a random local number block it because it was spam, but the scammers just use another number and all you’ve done is block a random number that’s owned by an actual individual or will be soon.

It’s all based on laws from decades ago and not accounting for modern tech

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6 points

The phone companies could stop number spoofing if they wanted to, they just don’t see the benefit in doing so.

Someone should set up a robocalling system with number spoofing to call phone company execs and law makers to annoy them into stopping it.

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4 points

They make a lot of money doing it…

And I think Colbert or Stewart did it

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3 points

I think it was John Oliver

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A couple weeks ago I got a random call from an 866 number whose caller id was Apex Tactical, as in the body cam and weapon gear manufacturer. I don’t have any involvement in or make any purchases in anything remotely related to them and it was kind of wild they didn’t leave a voicemail and I kind of just assumed it was a spoofed spam call but then that begs the question wtf why pick that company to impersonate lol

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This is a tactic that worked for me, but your mileage may vary. I used to get dozens of spam calls a day on both my work and personal numbers. I did all the things that you’re supposed to do and they just kept coming. I also needed to answer unknown numbers on my work phone so I couldn’t just block them.

So after a while, I started answering the calls and calling them back when I got silence. I made sure I could talk to a person/scammer as often as possible. In the beginning I would just ask them if they felt good about themselves trying to scam people out of their money. They would generally just hang up but one guy gave this long speech about how if you were that dumb you didn’t deserve that much money and how he was living the American dream (although I did ask him if he was in American at which point he hung up on me). After that, I would just start trying to keep them on the phone as long as possible. My job is such that I can work and talk on the phone at the same time, so I made a word document that had a fake name, birth day, social security number, address, a fake person basically. Then I would put on my “old man” voice and just act stupid to keep them on the phone. I kept one guy on the phone for four hours as I pretended to be too inept to turn on my laptop to give him my IP address. He was quite upset when I told him I knew he was scamming me.

Anyway, I haven’t gotten a scam call in like 6 months. I think scammers put me on their do not call list. Maybe worth a shot?

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16 points

Pretty similar for me, almost disappointed I haven’t gotten one in a while. It’s funny to waste their time, and get them all worked up lol.

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Yeah it was kinda fun. I figured ever minute I had them on the phone was a minute they weren’t scamming old people with dementia out of their money, so at the very least I was doing something mildly good too.

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I do love the idea of wasting their time! I’ve done it a couple of times, but nothing quite so extensive as what you do. Usually when I call robo call numbers back, I get “this number is disconnected,” so I can’t even annoy the hell out of them like they do to me. :/

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14 points

Four hour guy I had a lot of clerical work to do at work that day and didn’t need to talk on the phone at all so I just kept him going. Would go off on long made up stories related to what he was saying. Told him about my kids and their kids and my deceased wife. They guy told me that my card was used to purchase (among other expensive things) “$3,000 worth of Bitcoin” and I kept being like “what’s a bite coin?” and he COULD. NOT. GET. PAST. me calling it bite coin instead of Bitcoin. He would correct me every time. Then I asked what that was and he told me it was a digital currency and I told him about my coin collection for like 8 minutes before he steered me back on topic. I only told him I was wasting his time because I was done with work.

I will say, one guy asked if I lived alone and I told him I do now because my wife of 47 years died two months ago and he said “Ahhh…that’s sad…” and hung up on me. So at least that guy wasn’t completely evil.

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8 points

If you’re not getting calls it’s just coincidence. Scammers don’t have a unified do not call register.

You’re just wasting your time.

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12 points

Arguably what he is doing is for good, because he is also wasting their time, not being able to scam actual victims.

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2 points

Not really. If you really wanted to help your time would be better spent volunteering for an organisation that teaches tech literacy to people.

Also I don’t really believe OPs claims. Sure OK occasionally you might get a scammer to talk for more than a few minutes but not often.

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One spam call I asked the guy to stay on the line while I verify his number by running a route trace. He hung up and I stopped getting spam calls almost completely. Now I get a few that are auto-blocked but I still get robo-voicemails.

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This has been effective for me, too, though I haven’t put that much effort towards it. I lose interest and change my mind about wanting to be on the phone for very long, but I’ll engage with them. Like question why they are asking for my name if they called claiming there was a warrant for me, or similar situations where they are asking for information that they should have if the call was legit. Their goal isn’t to call people and annoy them, they want easy money from stupid people (and tbh, I don’t have much sympathy for those dumb enough to fall for it).

If you slow them down in their system, they seem to have another system to help filter people like you out.

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Yeah I’ve started doing the same and its almost like they maintain a list of us time wasters 😅 I’ll typically play along as long as I can so they think I’m all game. After they rage quit I immediately call the number back from a second phone and attempt to play dumb like I got disconnected, typically with some other dumbass that just resets and starts the script over, so I get a free two-fer 😂

It has become a fun little ride every once in a while!

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1 point

It’s probably a coincidence. Systems like that would mark your number as active as soon as you called back, and therefore either valid for spam calls directly, or ready to resell to other spammers, so they get their money in either case.

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41 points

Since you have a Pixel maybe try changing the call screening settings?

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I just leave it on maximum. Too many spoofed local numbers. If it’s someone important a d they’re not in my contacts, they’ll either make it through the screener or leave a message.

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8 points

Silly question, but where in settings is this? I feel like I’ve had it set up but can’t remember.

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9 points

Open phone app, 3 dots at the top right, settings, call screen

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7 points

Seems to be on, apparently… Thank you for showing me though!

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Thank you! I didn’t know where to find that setting and I didn’t know exactly what term to search in the settings to find it.

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I don’t see why prison calls need to be filtered out by spam filters

Probably because if they are automatically marked as “legit” spammers will just spoof those numbers.

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1 point

Where is this setting?

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4 points

Open phone app, 3 dots at the top right, settings, call screen

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1 point

Interesting, the menu in your screenshot isn’t available on my Pixel

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So the solution is give Big Daddy G more control huh. How convenient for them.

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13 points

You know what? I appreciate this reference. And if I don’t laugh, I’ll scream. So thanks!

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6 points

Sometimes that’s all you can do!

Screw telecoms for letting all this crap continue.

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24 points

Yet Another Call Blocker

I’ve used it for years now. Very few calls make it through any more.

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YACB the GOAT

Blacklist: *

Whitelist Contacts: On

Advanced Call Blocking Mode: On

Absolutely nothing gets through

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1 point

Would that work in OP’s case, where the spammers just spoof a local number? You’d think that it would get around that, just by virtue of being an “unrated” number.

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yes, you can set up custom blacklists, with wildcard support

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