Arch users whenever they update
same using alexandrite
Rolling release?
I want revolving release, every one is a russian roulette to destroy my system
can’t understand how manjaro is still alive, given how much better endeavouros configures the system
Maybe because many website still give recommendations who newbie in arch or Linux distro
Don’t believe it ?? Try googling it
My experience since I began using Linux full time for my main desktop, chronologically: Manjaro, Kubuntu, Debian stable, Debian testing, endeavourOS. Started EOS a week ago and I was shocked by how well everything worked out of the box. A bunch of things I had to tweak and fix before, like messing with NVIDIA drivers among other things, just worked perfectly out of the box. I tried it on a lark after borking something on my Debian system, kinda reluctantly since I had already made a massive script for customizing my Debian based KDE installs, but in the end I didn’t even feel like I needed it because it all just worked fine without all my scripted workarounds for everything. Really impressed. I just got the plasma 6 update a couple of hours ago and it’s mostly fine, dealing with a couple of issues before deciding whether I hit that timeshift restore and wait some more
Me using GNOME on Arch
Joke’s on you! My configuration is so borked that I’m afraid to upgrade!
Why would I want Plasma 6 on a stable release. That’s not why people use Debian
Yeah, this kind of misunderstands what debian is. If you wanted newer bleeding edge stuff you wouldn’t be using debian. Debian is all about the stability.
That said, Debian Sid or testing (the bleeding edge system that 13 will come from) may move to 6? Debian 12 was last year so 13 would be in 2025, so it seems likely 6 will make its way into the bleeding edge versions if people really wanted to use it. But there are better options for most end users than using test versions of major distros.
If you want cutting edge you should use Fedora. Debian does have a unstable branch but it isn’t really tested
Thats seriously overstating things. I’ve been running testing or sid for years and years, and I can only remember a handful of times where anything meaningfully broke. And typically its dependency breakages, not actual software breakages.
Debian is not all about “stability” in the sense of “doesn’t crash”. Debian is all about consistency. The platform doesn’t change. That means if there is a bug that crashes the system for you… it’s going to consistently be there.
For me, it was when stable was on kernel 3.16, and 3.18 was in testing, but the latest kernel was 3.19. And this was an era where AMD’s drivers not fully OpenGL compliant yet. Which meant games would crash. And knowing “this game will always crash until 3 years from now when we finally get a newer kernel” was enough to chase me off.
debian’s neovim package is 0.7.2. Sid is 0.7.2. Experimental is 0.9.5… If there are any bugfixes between 0.7.2 and 0.9.5 that are critical for your workflow… too bad. If its not a “security” release, its not getting updated. You can live with knowing the bug.
“Never change anything, stick to known good versions” only works if you know 100% that the “known good version” is actually bug free. No code is bug free, so inevitably the locked down versions in Debian will have still some flaws (and debian doesn’t backport bugfixes, they only backport SECURITY fixes). For most use cases, the flaws will be minor enough to not matter. But inevitably, if a flaw exists, it affects SOMEONE.
If you actually want to do any sort of complicated computing, debian is not a great choice. if you want a unchanging base so you can run a web browser and processor, I’m sure it’s great.
Debian is not all about “stability” in the sense of “doesn’t crash”. Debian is all about consistency. The platform doesn’t change.
Yes, that’s what ‘stable’ means.
