187 points

My biggest complaint is how Linus is still saying he’s not sorry about what he did, at least it doesn’t seem genuine, instead he is still apologizing that he didn’t realize what the community wanted.

He shouldn’t care what the community wants. He should always strive for accurate data, ethical partnerships, and correcting mistakes when they still make it through because they always will.

Linus is doubling down on his opinions, hiding mistakes, doing the bare minimum to fix them, and needs public outcry and the heavy hand of the other executives in LTT to see any course change.

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36 points

im so out of the loop here, help anyone?

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41 points

LTT fucked up hard, doubled down, worse things came out, tripled down

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Fucked up hard = published numerous videos with inaccuracies and errors due to tight timelines and QA that was not rigorous enough. Also they fucked up communication and sold a prototype at auction. These are mistakes and journalistic ethical issues.

From what I can tell, they have owned up to most of that.

The more serious accusations come from Madison Reeves who not only claims she suffered from being worked like a dog, but also severe sexual harassment and other awful behaviors. LTT put out a statement that they had hired an external investigator and would take corrective action based on the findings.

Now, LTT is for sure in the wrong here, but what have they done wrong since? It seems they are taking the criticism seriously, despite Linus’ initial understandable but unacceptable emotional reaction. Curious to hear!

edit: not sure why my summary of events is garnering a negative reaction 😅

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I thought the video was a step back, not tripping down. They took actual action and they layed out a plan how they’ll improve. What would you have preferred?

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In one of their videos one of the employees said they do better and more accurate GPU tests than other YouTubers called Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed. Then of course those mentioned YouTubers started to hit back and show how often LTT is wrong and makes wrong assumptions, because they don’t do proper due diligence. Since they have to release several videos per week. Gamers Nexus also exposed that LTT auctioned off a prototype GPU cooler from a small startup. But they had no permission to sell the unit. It was only for reviewing. The startup even asked to get the unit back several times. Linus, the owner of LTT, then released a non-apology. Afterwards a former employee came out and told why she left the company and it turns out the work environment is very toxic at LTT. She also reminded everyone that pettiness by Linus caused his fans to harass a small YouTuber called MindChop. Who eventually committed suicide. He fell into a depression because of the harassment and later his mom also committed suicide. She couldn’t bear the loss of her son.

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42 points

Jesus fucking Christ

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Yikes.

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There is no actual proof for the suicide of the son and the mom, would love to see actual proof if you have it but i wouldn’t really use this as an argument. I admit his behaviour was too much but pointing the blame for the suicide of a child is also too extreme

found this twitter post about it: https://twitter.com/reddit_lies/status/1691895748286177765 Just realized that Twitter account is quite stupid but I still can’t find any evidence for it being true or not

Edit: I don’t know if I want to believe if MindChop truly did what the reddit post is talking about, but I feel like Linus wasn’t at fault for his community bullying the Owner.

Another thing I just found: https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15sjv78/for_anyone_wondering_why_madison_stayed_silent/jwfeg5a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

This whole thing is very complicated and I am not trying to discredit the madison allegations with this, they are a completely different topic

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Small note on the cooler subject; the cooler was auctioned to charity - they didn’t keep the money for themselves.

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“Several videos a week”.

Twenty-five (25) videos a week. Five a day, four if they work weekends which they likely do. Plus the WAN show and other social media. Their velocity is far too high for accuracy to be a priority. As their own employees said in their video, they wish they had more time. And as Linus himself said, their velocity is so high that the instant they publish a video it has to be forgotten because they have to turn to the next one.

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Can you point to the comment by Madison about the MindChop thing? As far as I can see she never brought it up.

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Linus Tech Tips, a large YouTube tech channel, has faced backlash after GamersNexus posted a video detailing their increasingly flawed videos focusing on quantity over quality. LTT releases videos multiple times a week, but these videos almost always have errors that are later corrected or are not noticed by LTT. This results in lower quality videos that can sometimes be misleading (especially product review videos). These criticisms had been expressed by many viewers of LTT prior the GamersNexus video. GamersNexus is also a popular tech channel and amplified these criticisms with the release of their video.

Other criticisms of LTT are that their packed release schedule overworks their employees and their corporate culture is hostile towards stressed employees. These criticisms were merely speculation until a former LTT employee posted on X (formerly Twitter) a detailed account of why they decided to leave the company. Their allegations detailed overworking, harassment, and their declining mental health due to their job at LTT.

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GamersNexus does probably more research than a video deserves though. I’ve always found the accuracy levels of the LTT videos acceptable; I think GN might be sort of spuriously demanding rigor here.

Harassment is no good and must be stopped, though.

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LMG (Linus Media Group) was making careless mistakes and publishing a lot of inaccurate data, sometimes going as far to not recommend or label a product as “bad” after misusing it. This was likely due to an unnecessarily rushed pace of video releases that came from prioritizing sponsor revenue over accuracy, which many feel is a pretty massive ethics breach for a news outlet that is marketing itself as a home for highly objective, data driven content (LTT Labs).

Gamers Nexus called out this behavior in a 40 minute video which kicked off all the drama, and Linus posted a kneejerk response on the LTT forum where he largely defended his behavior and conclusions and badmouthed Gamers Nexus for going public with these criticisms instead of sharing them privately.

A few days later, LTT put out a video that was almost entirely LTT leaders other than Linus admitting how bad everything was, sharing some details on their processes, and committing to being more transparent & taking a week off uploading videos to rework things. But the video also included some tone deaf moments, like a plug for merch and Linus talking for a bit where he sort of apologized but didn’t really talk for long enough to acknowledge all of his fuck ups. He did say “I’m sorry” at one point which was pretty meme worthy.

The video was also monetized when it went up and the description had links to their merch store in it, which people called out as slimy and LTT subsequently removed.

Different people have different conclusions – some think it was a total non-apology, but I personally am satisfied. To me all their issues were the result of bad processes/automation run amok, so their commitment to reworking their processes and being more transparent about them with the community is exactly what I wanted to see.

But that’s just me – I think there are many valid conclusions that can be drawn from this.

Edit: There was also a reddit post on Reddit made by a former employee, Madison, that made allegations of sexual harassment. If true, these would be extremely damning, and to my knowledge LMG has not spoken on them yet. I also am just learning about this, so I don’t know whether these statements have been corroborated by anyone.

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I went down this rabbit hole last night. This dude accurately summs it all up in about 10 minutes. First 10 minutes of the video

https://youtu.be/XH6zCNR0SZ4

If you have time there are more, longer, videos in the video description

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/XH6zCNR0SZ4

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

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1 point

Phillip DeFranco still makes videos? Huh. TIL.

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Do what I do. Don’t care about the things that you don’t care about.

Although watching this since yesterday has been somewhat entertaining. Seems like a public figure stepped on his dick.

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18 points

Accurately presenting your past opinions and weaknesses is not weakness. You can recognise your error while accurately describing your past actions.

You may want to change your actions depending on new information though.

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18 points

I’m probably missing a meme, what’s BP?

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8 points

British Petroleum… You know the guys behind that huge oil spill several years back

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British Petroleum. The meme comes from the South Park episode lampooning the BP oil spill and BP’s response to it. The meme is making fun of the fact that youtubers use the same non-apology whenever they’re in trouble.

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4 points

Winner

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3 points

It’s also lampooning the video LeBron James made when switching teams for the first time.

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7 points

British Petroleum. That bit is about the South Park episode which originated the meme rather than whatever Linus did (of which I’m also out of the loop)

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4 points

British Petroleum, if I had to guess.

They were largely (if not entirely) responsible for the oil that leaked/spilled into the Gulf of Mexico.

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8 points

They rebranded to “Byond Petroleum” during their greenwashing campanges but yea

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3 points

You sure it’s not “Big Polluter” now?

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BYOND as in Bring Your Own Natural Disaster?

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BP oil spill: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

BP CEO hearing: https://youtu.be/X8p4s7EE6FY

South Park’s version: https://youtu.be/HQhmGIW7MVU

Edit: Here’s a better South Park one with the OP’s screen… https://youtu.be/15HTd4Um1m4

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/X8p4s7EE6FY

https://piped.video/HQhmGIW7MVU

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

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I get that this is just a meme, but comparing YouTube drama to the reckless behavior of a multi-billion dollar oil conglomerate causing incalculable amounts of ecological damage feels like a bit of an overreaction.

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True, there are probably better companies with a toxic work environment, uncompetent managment and rushed products but I can’t think of one rn, well except VW but that’s over the top too.

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Sexual harassment allegations are not “drama”. And anyways, the comparison is in the way they apologize and not the damage they have done.

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Dafuq what did I miss??? I thought the criticism was about data inaccuracy and overworking (which they addressed in the apology video (whatever that means))

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Two other items happened, the bringing up of a story of a kid commiting suicide supposedly due to Linus fans? (Vague) and claims of hostile work environment and sexual harassment and assault from a former employee within a 24-48 period

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After tech Jesus posted that, a former employee came out about all sorts of stuff about the work environment were pretty horrible

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Oof yeah was not aware of these at the time of my original comment.

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4 points

You are analyzing an image macro

I think that’s… well, have at it I guess

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17 points

It’s actually being compared to a South Park episode that parodies damage control.

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6 points

I think it’s only comparing the same impression of a fake apology, only to calm down the crowd.

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23 points

He came a long way from the depressed linus meme of years ago

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103 points

A comment I saw on another thread put it best. He should have taken the 100 million

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He got offered that much for the company? Yeah, I’d be sipping cocktails on the beach by now.

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