It seems that the Linux Foundation has decided that both “systemd” and “segmentation fault” (lol?) are trademarked by them.

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“Patent troll” and “required actions to preserve trademarks” are two totally different things. The former is objectively bad in all ways. The second is explainable if there truly is a trademark and said gear infringes on the trademark and may be excusable if the Linux Foundation is forced to act to preserve their branding (trademark law is weird). It’s even more explainable if this is a shitty auto filter some paralegal had to build without any technical review because IP law firms are hot fucking mess. I’m also very curious to see the original graphics which I couldn’t find on Mastodon. If they are completely unrelated and there was an explicit action by someone who knew better, the explanation provides no excuse.

Attacking any company because the trademark process is stupid doesn’t accomplish much more than attacking someone paying taxes for participating in capitalism.

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Why does the Linux Foundation even have a trademark process for “segmentation fault”? According to the poster on Mastodon, these words were the whole design.

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Doing a search on the USPTO shows no mark for that combination of words. Did the poster share the design? Because either there’s more to the story on their side or there’s more to the Linux Foundation side. For example, an overworked paralegal with no concept of what terms to include. Alternatively, someone being an asshole with a SLAPP suit. We need more information.

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Just like champagne only comes from the champagne region of France, true segmentation fault only comes from a linux program shitting itself.

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Linux is the imposter here. Segmentation fault refers to how the PDP-(I forget) hardware organized memory. It comes from the original unix implementation which linux has never had any part of.

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Aged like fine segmentation fault

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They might not; that is just the title of the art. The art could have other infringing content.

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You can look trademarks up. They don’t.

There is more to the story, even if it’s just some overzealous bot or contracted company.

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Does the back include Linux logo or smth? Otherwise it makes no sense

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Segmentation fault is the name of the artwork.

The artwork itself might contain the Linux logo

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You mean Tux? That’s under a custom attribution license, with no noncommercial clause

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My comment contains “if” because, speaking from professional expertise, there is a good possibility this is happening because of either a legal agreement I don’t have insight into so I can’t comment on or because of incompetence. It could also be happening from malice which, imo, is the kind of SLAPP bullshit Nintendo is deservedly attacked for. I’m not trying fanboy anything here; I’m just saying we need more information for pitchforks. The Linux Foundation has my implicit assumption of positive intent (unlike, say, Nintendo), so I’m willing to wait and see what happened here before I start attacking The Linux Foundation for something we have a screenshot from Mastodon on.

If you believe my professional opinion is wrong, I would love to learn more about why.

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The Linuses (Lini?) just can’t stop screwing up this week.

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I’m interested to hear your novel theories about how trademarks and patents are related

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It’s called the “US Patent and Trademark Office”, so they must be basically the same thing, right‽

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They can’t until their patent is granted for it 😂

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That’s stupid. Can they not just focus on whatever their purpose is?

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I think the problem is that just like you (and me), they might not know what their purpose is. 😂

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The complaint is not about the terms “systemd” and “segmentation fault.” Those are the titles of the affected artworks. Presumably the artworks themselves contain some trademarked property.

Also, this is utterly unrelated to patents.

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The content isn’t anything to write home about. I don’t really get it.

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Thanks for finding these. I couldn’t see them, so I assumed they were removed in response to the complaint.

You’re right, there doesn’t appear to be anything here to object to.

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I can understand Systemd being trademarked, but does the Linux Foundation own the trademark for Systemd…? Surely not. I’d think Red Hat before I thought Linux Foundation.

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