This is the second advertising post I’ve seen on lemmy and they were both today. I’m wondering how other people feel about it or if they’ve even seen posts like this?

Personally I’m livid and hate seeing it here. One of the things that attracts me to lemmy is the donation based, volunteer run, distributed, open access nature of it. I don’t want it to become profit driven and I really don’t want to see companies in what I belive should be a purely social endeavour. I really think making it profit driven will ruin it, if that means it stays smaller then I’m okay with that.

Now I know I can block them and move on which is what I’ve done. I’m also pleased to say that both posts I saw were heavily downvoted and I did my part too.

I’m curious if other people agree with me and don’t want advertising like this on lemmy? Also, what do people think we can actually do about it if we don’t want it around? Petition instance admins to ban advertising accounts? Then how do we define one? Can anything actually be done or do I just have to block and move on from a possibly ever increasing flow of advertising until I get bored and move on?

Sorry for the long rambling post and thanks if you read this far.

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I don’t concern myself with it.

At the moment, advertising is so rare and low key that I’d have to go out of my way to be bothered by it, and since there’s no reason to go out of my way to be bothered by something, I don’t.

I assume that as time goes on, there will be more advertising on some instances. I might not know sbout it, since I block any and all ads I can by default, but if I do start seeing them, then I’ll just block the instances that run them.

And that’s that.

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I like it a lot better than the Reddit ads with locked comments

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I think you have a good point. I’m not gonna generally lambaste a business/ad in the comments, but I’d like for the option to be there as a possible feedback mechanism. Bans aren’t the only tool.

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Companies will company, if there’s an open door to spam things they will. SPAM in the email realm I recall seeing a stat that it accounts for somewhere around 90%+ of email traffic, so thus all the crazy hurdles of ip lists, dkim, spf, etc.

I’ve seen accounts created on Mastodon for just that purpose. They get a warning that such is not the platform’s purpose, if ignored into the ban bucket they go. The problem is it’s easy to create accounts unless the admins want to manually review and approve every applicant. External IP blocks work to an extent, but are always going to be reactive in nature getting banned after they’ve been reported. Ce’st la’vie (or however it’s spelled)

If there’s a plus side to it, their presence here means that someone thinks the network reach is enough to be worth the effort to post something here to get some kind of return.

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This is kind of how I thought it might be. Due to the way it all works I don’t think we can really do much about it and will just have to adjust I guess.

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I actually think its OK, its just like any other account. So simply block them and all is good. Businesses need platforms too. If you dont like that business advertising to you block them. The difference to the big social media giants is that you can’t block them cuz they pay them. Also, a bad ad will have significant less reach in lemmy/masto.

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If people are going to advertise on an instance I’m involved with I would prefer they go through the instance owner and it be an avenue to fund the instance. I dislike that people want to basically plug themselves and use the instance space to advertise without paying the instance owner for it. If we have to see ads, I’d rather they help the instance exist than just be an eyesore for no gain

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Businesses need platforms too

I think they have enough platforms already. They do not need to be in the only space which we carved out for us to escape surveillance capitalism.

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I agree to that, however I was answering in context of the fediverse taking over and being standalone. Wishful thinking I know, but one can hope.

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I don’t mind small businesses, creatives etc advertising themselves. When you’re self-employed, marketing / promo is incredibly difficult (speaking from personal experience). Like you say, people are free to downvote or block these ad posts. I’d be sad if I made a post promoting a service I offer as a (very!) small business and it got downvoted to oblivion out of reflexive (and understandable) ad hatred.

Once advertisers realise there are eyeballs to be reached here, they’re going to start posting. Imo it will be handled best on an instance-by-instance, or even community-by-community basis. I started a community for trance, and as an example I would not be happy if a massive multinational like Threads, or Nestle posted an ad there. I WOULD however, be happy if an event such as Luminosity, ASOT or small local club were to post an ad. There would probably have to be limits if it got out of hand.

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I think there’s a big difference with an artist or OF model posting content and then linking to their stuff, it’s still an ad really but at least it’s relevant to the community.

These ads are just random posting, I saw the a hair transplant ad just in a random community. If they want to post a before and after pic in the bald community or whatever, that would be more acceptable. This is just annoying, bot like, spam.

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