154 points

People are still running Win7 without pause. Don’t kid yourself!

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„No update? So no more forced restart? Neat“

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No more forced junk and changes I have to undo? My computer can stay the exact way I like it for a long period of time without Microsoft fucking it up? Sounds like a dream.

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Hi.

Due to the embedded insecurity of our system we are forced to upgrade all of Earth’s computers as remediation. While you sit tight for updates, all computers will run at half speed. Once the new chipsets are available, you may purchase them on a subscription basis.

Your desktop is almost ready…

Just finishing up…

"

Anyone else remember Meltdown and Spectre 2018?

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39 points

This is a meme about enterprise equipment lifecycles.

Huge corporate entities with machine inventory counts in the hundreds of thousands aren’t going to give a shit about trying to upcycle old hardware - they just want it to not be their problem anymore.

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15 points

I predict there will be a few companies that pop up to refurbish the hardware and sell it as a thin client solution. Places like call centers live on refurb equipment and are moving to a vdi infrastructure.

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Thin client for windows 12 🧠

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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34 points

My dad’s friend was still running a 486 until last year. It did his spreadsheet.

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19 points

On Lotus 1-2-3?

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3 points

Holy shit, nostalgia

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3 points

generally computers won’t stop doing things they were already capable of doing. tons of machines and businesses may rely on older hardware and software to complete specific tasks.

but yeah, a 486 is pretty past its prime, and the task could have been accomplished on something far more modern.

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9 points

Windows 7 is the only good version since XP, not even joking.

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4 points

I agree with you bit 10 was still usable. When 11 hit and I saw the future, I abandoned dual boot.

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I know a few orgs that still use XP.

Hospitals, for example. Banks and the IRS still emulate IBM mainframes running COBOL.

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But those aren’t affected usually. For them it’s about stability because their certification processes are a lot of work and they won’t risk any interruptions unless absolutely necessary. So they actually pay a lot of money for support beyond the normal EOL.

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the organizations I know personally, don’t have those kinds of resources. They use XP because they rely on software that hasnt been ported to the new enviroments since forever, and it doesn’t work on the new versions of windows. (or works poorly). plenty of places have old propriety licenses that they’ve never upgraded to new versions of software because it still works for their needs.

CNC machining, doctor’s offices. Tax lawyers. bakery shops running acocunting software. farmers. You’ll find it in lots of industries.

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1 point

Not much since Steam dropped support >.<

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Yeah Win7 is still good in comparison to win 11

Steam discontinued Win 7 and they told everyone linux would be next, but then why? Linux is up to date

edit: they* i mean Windows 7 users with it, sorry for the confusion!

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27 points

they told everyone linux would be next

what?

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17 points

Yeah windows 7 “elitist”, i saw some steam discussions about it. But it was just hot air, that they just bloated up.

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11 points

Win7 might have been a good OS, but it no longer is unless it never touches the internet.

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Yeah, i know just because of the security vulnerabilities, but it was for a long time better OS than windows 10 or 11, and because of that i switched to linux,

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I’m sure some releases have become unsupported. The nature of Linux distros makes it a bit harder to define exactly which ones, even harder is you consider flatpak and snaps.

I would be surprised if any of the big ones released at the time Windows 7 was released is not supported. If course there’s no gatekeeping on the upgrades that I’m aware of (in general at least)

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62 points

Okay, but it’s still bad for the environment if nobody picks them up

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34 points

Thats assuming that people are actually going to throw their computers in the trash when the OS reaches end of life.

Most people running these old machines probably won’t know or care.

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22 points

They’ll definitely know. Microsoft’s last update for Windows 10 will make sure to add as many notices, popups and scary alerts as possible.

And as a result plenty will care, particularly those who aren’t tech savvy. If you’ve got relatives for whom you are their go-to IT person, be prepared.

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12 points

That’s assuming they even read the message and don’t just close out of it instantly.

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39 points

I foresee rise in selfhosted sector because of cheap hardware

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26 points

Actually happen. An i5 with 4 cores + 8 GB Ram and a 256 GB SSD for something like 100 bucks. Years before we paid this for a raspberry.

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2 points

If its a laptop, then it has a built-in UPS as well. Plus extra peripherals are not needed either!

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28 points

Homelab go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Now imagine if PC was invented after “post-PC”/iPhone era and you will need a different OS build for every model and there were “promises” of Windows updates for each machine after which it cannot be longer updated. Also basically computers would have locked bootloaders or void warianty when a system is touched.

I wonder how many phones could be saved from the landfill for the last 10 years if there were supported by Linux.

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You can get ARM builds of Linux. I have never tried them so can’t speak to how well they work on a phone.

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Just running Linux is one thing, but making it working with anything outside the CPU like the motherboard onboard chips and other components is a different task.

Check out a table of what works on one of the Linux distro targetting phones: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices

There is no phone with fully working hardware and most barely booting and showing console.

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Is there a lot of benefit to running postmarketOS compared to rooted Android?

I’ve had some trouble with flashing an old Asus tablet in that all the old images/info are basically dead links. But that is mostly just your average link rot.

I figured compiling a custom ROM was more trouble than it’s worth but if the main branch is actively maintained maybe less so.

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Interesting. For the Nokia N900 there is Maemo Leste which also uses mainline Linux (+ a few patches they are working to mainline) and there everything works. Mind that works means in this case: Does what I want if I issue a number of console commands. However most of it by now even works via the GUI.

Keep in mind that Leste is a project by a few enthusiasts and writing drivers for undocumented hardware is a monumental task, writing GUI for a whole mobile OS is also complicated. So it is utterly astonishing, how far they got!

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For anyone who is interested, I keep my eye on Pine for this sort of thing.

https://pine64.com/product-category/smartphones/

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