I don’t understand why it never occurred to anyone that they could just change the times they do things instead of changing the clock
Pretty sure it did, and would lead to conversations like “Oh by the way boss, for the next 6 months I’ll be coming in an hour late. You guys are cool with flex time, right?”
DST was established in the context of anemic government trying to show extensive reach/control over the economy at a time where it had very little (arguably it still does today but only because most governments have matured to represent their most powerful class). As if to say “We determine the clocks that industry schedules by”
farmers? the people who have to do things by daylight hours regardless what any authority around them counts as the time? they’re the ones that need daylight saved?
what?
In Canada, one of the biggest farming provinces is also the only one that doesn’t have DST, and they seem to be ok. I think.
It was never about farming, it’s bad for farmers. The farming lobby fought it off for years before the Chamber of Commerce rammed it through, with big assists from the golf and bbq industries. Then Big Candy successfully lobbied to get it extended to include Halloween.
https://qz.com/daylight-savings-time-origin-business-farmers-bbq-golf-1851320679
…Right? Like, if you want daylight at the end of your work day, just start work earlier in the day.
Instead, we have the tyranny of night owls who cannot wake up at a decent hour wanting to move clock noon wildly away from solar noon just to pamper their solipsistic needs.
It would cause disruptions because of business hours inconsistently changing.
You know your suppliers business hours, they don’t change. The clock changes, but your supplier still opens at 9am, you know when you’re working they’re open.
If it were trivial to accomplish individually, then you could tell your boss that after the time change you’ll be coming into the office at 10am instead of 9am and negate any ill effects from the time change. If place of employment is cool with this, then you make this change right now. But most people have to conform to what the rest of their industry is doing.
Idk man… Arizona??
(Source: lived there. But also, for your intellectual consideration, fuck dst)
Indiana used to only have DST near Louisville and Chicago. Then Mitch Daniels ran a first failed campaign for governor on the “give Indiana DST” platform. When he ran again and was re-elected, he gave Indiana DST.
I was born and raised in Indiana, but I was living in California when it happened. It sucked that I had to move back and still deal with the DST I had to deal with in California.
Arizona only has a change of about 4 hours winter to summer vs Northern cities that lose 7 though. The big fight in the north is whether you leave for work in the dark, or leave to go home from work in the dark.
But I also lived in Arizona and DST is so damn terrible. But I’m on team year-round DST because I want after work daylight to get things done (vs Arizona which is year-round Standard Time.
Saskatchewan is fairly directly north of Arizona, in the sane time zone, doesn’t do it either. Everyone in Saskatchewan is familiar with forcing foreign electronics onto Arizona time because the developers just looked at a world time zone map that neglected to note Saskatchewan, in addition to having no DST, is partially in the wrong tome zone. Western half is supposed to be on mountain time, eastern on central, same as BC is cut down the middle into mountain amd Pacific. So anyways my phone decided I was on central DST Sunday night and switched me to Manitoba time, I opened an hour early and was a little perturbed, it’s cause Bell outsourced everything to Bombay.
It’s much more logical to blow up the sun instead.
Technically we need to stay in Daylight Savings Time. I.e. what we have now with more light in the evening. We just came from standard time: more light in the morning. We just need to stop changing now.
The sun rising even later in the winter is far worse than rising earlier in the summer. It is also giving in to the idea that ‘business hours’, which are lopsided to after noon, needing to drive everyone’s clocks instead of the sun.
9 to 5 or 8 to 5 business hours are the problem. Just make business hours an even 8 to 4 and you have the exact same evening hours as DST but mornings are not any later in the winter than they are with standard time.
You can’t change business hours like that. It would require a lot more of a law to mandate anything of the sort.
I want more evening daylight so I can actually do things after I’m done with work. Changing to DST would make that easier. IDGAF about morning light. Others may want the opposite but I guess they are morning people.
You can’t write laws for businesses, just for everyone else?
You do know that DST happens in the summer, right?
You can’t change business hours like that. It would require a lot more of a law to mandate anything of the sort.
Businesses can just change their own hours. Wherever they want. Doesn’t require a law or anything.
All the government has to do is do away with daylight savings, and you can negotiate with your boss for better start/end times for your personal needs.
I think we’re the seeing the difference in location in the comments lol. People that don’t live with 0 sunlight in winter, because youre at work for those hours, probably don’t understand. It’s actually OK for states to cancel DLS if they convert to standard, but not the spring forward time. I heard that’s why MN can’t change theirs permanently, because they want spring forward time but that’s not legal federally.
Yeah, I’m not even that far north but having sunset before 5pm locally is pretty bad. I’d personally rather have sunrise by 830 rather than 730. The time change just got us sunlight for any amount of time post 6pm.
Same, it’s debilitating! In the middle of winter for me, there’s no helping it, it will always be dark both before and after work. But the first third and last third, I would love some sunlight that’s not at 6-8am. Those times are spent prepping for work so I don’t get to enjoy it, even if I was a morning person.
I never thought DST was a big deal until I lived somewhere without it, and let me tell you that sunlight from 5 to 8:30 is infinitely better than 4 to 7:30. What percentage of people are awake at 4 vs 5 do you think?
All I’m saying is first light at 3 AM sucks ass
Where was that, because it sounds more like they were in the wrong time zone. (Which happens quite often.)
