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Now personally I think we have the word takie pretty well defined in our rules and have no intention of changing it. Fuck tankies, they don’t belong here.
I didn’t write fuck commies, or fuck libtards, (I am a vocal socialist and very far left) or anything like that, the banner is specifically about pro-auth dictator-worshipping tankies.

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Holy fuck great start to federation, like just actual semantics trolling. I don’t even know what else to call it, you have 0 pushback on the fact you praise dictators, it’s actually amazing.

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What dictators are you talking about?

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You sound fun

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I wouldn’t use the term “x-tard”, it’s pretty ableist :/ (and something I’ve had to put up with as an autistic person - honestly it was going away a few years ago but seems to have re-established itself via 4chan’s memetic bleedthrough to internet communities).

But I do agree very strongly with the sentiment ., it’s nice to have a leftist space on lemmy not overrun by authoritarianism tbh nya

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What does the word “tankie” mean according to you? Would you consider Nelson Mandela a “tankie” for his support of the Cuban revolution, taking inspiration from Mao while imprisoned on Robben Island, and being thankful towards the Soviet Union for their support in ending apartheid while being the last recipient of the Lenin Peace Prize? Because if so, then I’m sure if I’m welcome here as a socialist South African who will always be grateful for the choices Mandela made…

And before I get accused of brigading, this post appeared on the front page of my all feed. I’ll link a screenshot as proof in the spoiler tag below

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Not replying to anything other than pointing out that at least on my TestFlight version, Memmy properly “hid” the spoiler until I expanded it.

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This is a fucking internet website on the internet. Lay off the red dye kid

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Is criticism of the use of that word against 196’s rules? Here are articles from the Chicago Tribune and the Anchorage Press, and a definition from the Cambridge English Dictionary which say:

Taking the R-word and adding “lib” to it doesn’t make it any less offensive. And what bothers me is that those who combine “liberal” with that word are not insulting their intended targets — they’re insulting an entire group of people who have done nothing wrong, all while perpetuating a term that simply needs to go away.

Combining the R-word with liberal makes it no less offensive.

an offensive word used by some people on the extreme right of politics to refer to someone who holds left-wing political beliefs

While I understand that you’re using it ironically, I believe that being critical of the ironic use of offensive language is valid and contributes to discussion. I find it concerning that Nakoichi’s post was removed without any explanation other than calling him, “braindead.”

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Being called a liberal is insulting enough. Most liberals will identify as progressives.

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Ok yes I’m not calling anyone a liberal though

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I stand corrected.

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some people want to post here but are repelled by “fuck tankies?”

good.

that is the intended functionality of the banner.

Generally speaking, people offended by this are either:

  • libs that dont understand the distinction between tankie and communist or have been misinformed by tankies on what its supposed to mean, but are pro communism(wierd combination?)

  • the “CCCP did nothing wrong” people

maybe having something leftist in the banner or some place like that could help the former, but I wouldnt remove the message, as it acts as a soft filter for the latter.

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Fuck anyone who works for the Dept of Naval Intelligence or the FBI. Fuck their social media interns, even. Anyone who interferes with the internet to filter out left-wing political content is scum.

If that offends you more than “fuck tankies,” you have the same problem but worse.

You’re a human or a fed. Are we on the same page? If not, that’d be odd, since this is just a trans-friendly forum for harmless shitposting, right? There shouldn’t be any feds here.

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I dont understand what this means. What does the dept of naval intelligence have to do with this post on lemmy.blahaj.zone

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Certain social media ops/tracking programs are run by the DNI. Not saying they’d be on this site but the mods seem really pesky about condemning Western federal agencies so this is a test, basically. If “Tankies” in their head are more threatening than the FBI in real life, they have something to answer to

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Bro watch your ankles when you pivot like that :3

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How about fuck anyone who works for the Chinese disinformation and propaganda arm. Fuck anyone who censors their citizen’s internet. Fuck anyone who is actively committing genocide against minorities within their country.

Works both ways!

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Fuck anyone who is actively committing genocide against minorities within their country.

Are you american?

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yeah. fuck tankies. that’s the thoughts.

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Tankies mad they’re being called tankies?

Drawing a comparison to the use of “woke” is fucking hilarious. Only one of those terms is actually an insult, and the insinuation that both of those terms are the same says a lot about their perspective.

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The fact they feel the phrase fuck tankies is acting as a barrier to their participation in 196 should be a wake up call for them to examine their political views.

Unlike their use of the word liberal, which they use to refer to everyone to the right of them on the political spectrum, we are using the word tankie for a single specific group. Tankie means authoritarian communist. Please keep the sign.

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I have been called a tankie for supporting Cuba, I have been called a tankie for saying the fall of Rhodesia was a good thing, I have been called a tankie for saying landlord isn’t a legitimate profession, I have been called a tankie for saying Elon Musk doesn’t deserve his wealth. “Tankie” is just “woke”, but for centre left soc-dems

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I agree with all of these takes. You’re still a tankie though.

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Maybe do some introspection?

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woke = (-∞, center]

tankie = (-∞, progressive liberal)

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Unlike their use of the word liberal, which they use to refer to everyone to the right of them on the political spectrum, we are using the word tankie for a single specific group

Yes, for everybody to the left of you.

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I am a social democrat. I think we should elect socialist politicians through our existing democracy. The socialist politicians will then vote on legislation to regulate the economy and ensure that corporations do not gain an outsized influence in the free market.

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Looks at Allende, the Indonesian Genocide, ÖSDAP, and the US Civil War… I am sure, this time the ruling class will just say “aww shucks”, and peacefully give up power, rather than fight to retain power like every previous time.

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This has been tried many times and history shows that it’s a really effective way of getting yourself couped and get a brutal reactionary regime put in your place. The bourgeoisie is not burdened by any high-minded liberal ideals when it comes to preserving their wealth and power, they are going to do whatever it takes.

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Have you ever heard of anarchism and mutual aid

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There is no one to the right of authoritarians who want to silence dissent and use violence to right the inequalities in society.

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If we were at war and they were soldiers, sure. Otherwise it’s murder.

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