John Barnett had worked for Boeing for 32 years, until his retirement in 2017.

In the days before his death, he had been giving evidence in a whistleblower lawsuit against the company.

Boeing said it was saddened to hear of Mr Barnett’s passing. The Charleston County coroner confirmed his death to the BBC on Monday.

It said the 62-year-old had died from a “self-inflicted” wound on 9 March and police were investigating.

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Guess the executives didn’t want to wait for him to take one of their planes and die naturally by getting sucked out at 35,000 feet when a door falls off.

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I absolutely love that bit!

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Which bit- the front? Because I’m sorry to say it fell off

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Well, that’s not typical, if like to point that out.

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…yet.

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Is this a Russian style self inflicted wound…?

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The Russians will throw someone out the window or poison them in a very obvious way, the Americans will put two in their head and have it ruled a suicide.

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I love the one where the guy “killed himself” by duck taping himself to a lawn chair and then throwing himself in the pool.

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No, it’s probably more of a mob style self-inflicted wound. Didn’t say he shot himself in the head twice and jumped out a window.

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My brother in Freedom Jesus, faking a murder to look like suicide is as American as apple pie!

Hell the most notorious pedophile in history, who definitely had video of the world’s richest men committing statutory rape and assault, killed himself in one of the most secure locations anyone could imagine, surrounded by guards and video cameras! And nobody saw a thing! HA! And we’re all like “well i guess that sordid chapter is over” hahahaha. Oh man. It literally works every. single. time.

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Wow the FBI are gamers

Jokes aside, holy shit that’s monstrous

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No window was involved, so- probably not.

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Cases like these should be called Russian Suicides.

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With how many assassinations the US carries out, I think they deserve to at least be called USicides

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“Local officials confirmed Mr. Barnett’s suicide. When asked how Mr. Barnett managed to fire the sniper shot through his bedroom window, the officer first on the scene only replied, “Trust me bro.”, while stuffing a large stack of 100 dollars bills back down the front of his pants.”

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[2 week later] Former lead detective found dead in in what investigators have ruled a suicide. He apparently hung himself after a fit of rage where his house appeared to have kicked in his own front door, tore the hard drive out of his security camera hub, punched himself in the face a number of times, then tied the rope to a bannister and strung himself up.

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(Interwebz pedant voice) actually there are several scenarios possible where one could conceivably kill themselves with a sniper rifle 100 yards away . . . People who don’t know about this are just so credulous, but weapons science has known for a long time that JFK actually killed himself . . .

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In case you think we’re any better than the Russians.

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No, it is not a corporation protecting its bottom line that makes us no better, but the inevitable lack of response from the US “justice” system. Just like with Epstein.

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Damn. That hits hard.

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go ahead and pack your bags, the door to Russia is wide open

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Boy, this town sure does have gang violence like that town over there!

Why don’t you go live over there, then?

What a stupid pointless argument. What does that even mean?

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send us a postcard

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This is the norm in Russia, it’s not in the US. Both sides are not the same. I can’t seem to remember the last time any president had someone they didn’t like pushed out of a window or had their tea poisoned on the regular. If Trump gets elected obviously that will change but to say that we aren’t any better is wild.

Especially after killing political rivals like Navalny (and all the failed attempts). When is the last time we saw that in the US?

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When is the last time we saw that in the US?

January 6 2021

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Epstein

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I am not a conspiracy theorist. Reality is trying it’s damnedest to make me one.

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Eh. There will always be real conspiracies and then…lizard people conspiracies.

This shit right here? yeah…they killed him. 100%. No doubt in my fucking mind.

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I mean, he was old…people die—

It said the 62-year-old had died from a “self-inflicted” wound on 9 March and police were investigating.

oh shit they totally fucking killed him

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THEY FUCKING KILLED HIM!

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Relevant Chart (open image in new tab to see it larger):

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this is bulshit, epstein definetly didnt kill himself, for starters.

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Not sure what to make of this chart except that a few items are misplaced imo and I agree conspiracy shit is an alt right pipeline in most cases. Maybe it wasn’t always but whatever.

Anyhow.

I haven’t followed up on the news. But there sure wasn’t much available yesterday. So as far as actual reliable evidence we the public have little.

The guy being dead with an apparent self inflicted wound (as BBC and others said) or gunshot (as Corp Crime Reporter said) during whistleblower court proceedings against a giant company is consistent with suicide from:

  • Stress of the case or from blackmail
  • Stress from something totally unrelated.
  • Some other cause (depression, terminal illness…)

It is also consistent with:

  • murder made to look like suicide to silence his further testimony and dissuade others

Any of these is certainly plausible at least. As is Epstein being murdered. Actually, that one is more plausible, given the few suspicious coincidences and the sheer number of people who wanted his secrets to stay that way. Whereas extra-terrestrial UFOs aren’t all that plausible based on our current body of scientific knowledge.

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How did they make hollow earth antisemitic? MF’rs

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Epstein didn’t kill himself though. The circumstances where above the level of questioning, there were cameras turned off and he was supposedly on suicide watch.

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It’s no longer a conspiracy when it’s proven true.

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This isn’t proof. That’s the crazy part. I hear ya. I’m with ya. I don’t see anything that is concrete physical evidence to tie it all together. As of now.

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I agree, I just was making a joke. It’s a conspiracy until you realize it’s a fact. MK-ULTRA, Government spying on you (which time? ) , Big tobacco hiding that cigerettes cause cancer, Stacks of ET games are buried in New Mexico, even dark stories like the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments were all conspiracy theories at one time. Sadly they all turned out to be true.

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A conspiracy is when a group plans to do something unlawful. So if it’s proven true it’s still a conspiracy. It just stops being a theory.

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A “theory” is a collection of information we currently understand to be true.

The term “conspiracy theory” is a misnomer that should be correctly expressed as “conspiracy hypothesis”. But that’s just a theory.

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I think the confusion arises from the secrecy part. A conspiracy is understood to be a secret unlawful activity, especially of subversive nature. When it’s not secret anymore is it still conspiracy? or is it just organised crime? I know it feels just pedantic, but this is why the media abuses words to steer collective opinion. Nowadays you can just say something is a conspiracy and people will believe it’s fake without recourse.

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That’s the most annoying misunderstanding. A conspiracy is still a conspiracy when you prove it happened/it’s happening. Conspirators remain conspirators, which means they were working together to do something illegal in secret. Ok, so now it’s not secret anymore, but they still conspired.

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That’s what they want you to think.

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It’s possible it was stress from the litigation. In fact, if you don’t specify whose stress, I’d almost guarantee it.

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Ha!

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If it actually happened, it’s just a “conspiracy,” not a “conspiracy theory.”

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There are circumstances where conspiracy the likeliest explanation.

This is one of those.

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He didn’t show any signs of depression or suicidal tendencies… signs like voluntarily flying on a boeing plane.

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The Gulf of Tonkin incident being created by the US was a conspiracy theory until it wasn’t.

Not every “conspiracy theory” is wrong. Sometimes people in charge are actually trying to cover something up. It’s not insane to be skeptical of an official line until it’s backed up with proof.

Lizard people, however, don’t exist.

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My comment was meant to be tongue in cheek but you pretty much nailed the message I’m after. Don’t jump to the conspiracy conclusion but you have to have something wrong with your brain if this doesn’t at least tickle your skeptic gland.

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Lizard people, however, don’t exist.

Speak for yourself, upright ape.

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