Any recommendations for a self hosted note taking app that runs on everything with a screen and is designed for multi device usage?

Also a modern, powerful and puristic UI would be a must have to compete with Keep.

I am looking for this app every now and then but am always disappointed by the choices.

I recently tried Joplin on Android, but was very dissatisfied with the usabilty.

The FOSS self hosted alternatives for smart home and porn are better than the commercial ones, can’t be that hard for notes, can it?

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…ssh and vim?

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what about emacs?

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I use orgzly on android, Emacs on desktop. Syncthing to sync the files.

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Lol

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Editing a file with vim though ssh on mobile seems like a pain.

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I’ve done it a fair bit and it’s actually pretty painless. If you know how to use vim you save a ton of keystrokes, which makes a big difference on mobile.

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I don’t believe this for a single second

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+1

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That’s a fantasy I’m afraid. Just use Keep.

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Why’s that? Keep looks and feels like a pretty basic note taking app, I don’t even see any of the usual google “secret sauce” that would make it better, smarter, or more embedded… what is it about keep that you find inimitable?

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Of all the open source note apps I tried over a year ago, they didn’t seem that great. I’m also not interested in self hosting.

I like that Keep let’s you quickly create lists, let’s you add images, you can markup images, you can pin notes, search is fast and it all backs up to the cloud seamelessy. And I can result access it on any device.

In general I think there’s a lot to be said for Google services. Drive is great, put anything in there and have it everywhere and easily share.

Photos is indispensable because it’s so tig byhtly integrated with Android: take a photo and instantly it’s backed up to the cloud. No worry about losing my phone because my memories will be in the cloud.

I use Calendar all the time to manage events and reminders and it works perfectly. Also syncs to my calendar on Mint perfectly. It’s fast, easy to use, let’s you get in and out.

Google Messages now uses RCS which is great, is designed very well, and you can also send and receive messages from the web if you want. Plus it integrates nicely with Phone, Meet and Contacts.

It’s really hard to beat. And this is all free, although I pay €20 a year for the larger storage plan.

You can replicate this in Nextcloud but then you need to self host, set up incoming open ports, sorry about being ddoss’d or hacked, have either a large HDD or external HDD which may fail at any time. And it won’t integrate with Android as well.

I get people’s concern with privacy but I don’t think it’s as big a deal as people make out and end up throwing the baby out with the bath water.

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I think you got lost because self-hosting is very much the point of this community :)

The Keep features you enumerated are pretty rudimentary, and none of that requires the sheer engineering power of a Google to be delivered securely and effectively. Take something like quillpad for instance, it shares a lot of UI paradigms with Keep, but expands in every direction to make the note taking experience and keeping them organized better. So indeed, Google Apps as a captive ecosystem is hard to beat, but resisting the urge to put all your eggs in their basket has some enormous perks which people with experience value a lot.

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this is my current solution; I use Obsidian to manage my notes and I sync the folder with Syncthing. I still use Google Keep though for its whiteboard tool; is there a better app for that?

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Have you tried the Excalidraw plugin for obsidian? This may be closer to what you’re looking for. Otherwise, would the canvas feature do what you need?

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Haven’t tried the whiteboard tool in Google keep (didn’t even know there was one), but the Excalidraw plugin for Obsidian should cover almost any whiteboard use case I can think of. A bit more limited but also good is the native Canvas plugin in Obsidian.

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Obsidian! Getting it to use cloud synced folders is a little tricky but it is a fabulous little program.

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Available but not FOSS. Gotta watch the license if you use it for any work.

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I’m curious what licensing issues you would run into with obsidian?

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Not a huge one, but it is only free for personal and non-profit use. “If your notes contain content directly related to work projects or processes for a greater-than-one-person company, then you require a commercial license.”

Since it is on flathub and they don’t really nag you, I am sure there are people who aren’t really aware.

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Obsidian is so so good.

I don’t even mind to pay for their sync service to support them. You can even encrypt your vault (notebook) with your own key.

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Also a big fan of Obsidian!

For syncing, one option is to use syncthing.

I know someone (whose geek creds are admittedly well beyond mine) who is also a fan. He uses GitHub to sync his notes.

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Seconding Obsidian - it’s not FOSS, but the files are just markdown, nothing special, so you’re not locked in. Self hosting is real easy, you just have to Sync the files, and everything follows. I use syncthing between my laptop and phone and am having a good time with it.

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Whoops, should have noticed your endorsement of syncthing before posting a comment mentioning this.

While Obsidian does save to individual files, the Markdown they use seems to be a superset of everyday Markdown. Eg, being able to use callouts (eg, Note, Warning, Info, etc) and embedded linking of notes.

The automatic backlinks are fantastic. And I’ve discovered that if I rename a note, all links to that note get updated as well. So no need to worry about orphaning pages.

I’ve added a handful of plugins as well. Off the top of my head, one is a dynamic table of contents (for that page), another helps to compose/edit Markdown tables.

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Try Carnet it is exactly what Google Keep does but a nextcloud hosted App with mobile apps.

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